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Old Jul 13, 2020 | 11:23 AM
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Default Dana 30: Outer Axle Slinger 83500201

I did not see my post go through, and I'm sorry if I missed something and this ends up a duplicate...

I pulled my front axle shafts to replace the u-joints.
1998 XJ Sport 4.0, Dana 30 non-disconnect, non-ABS. Original owner... These shafts are OE and have never been removed that I know of.There was so much rust and crud that I sand blasted in the u-joint area just to get to the snap rings to remove the old joints.

The slingers were pretty battered and while wrestling to get the joints off I just tapped them off the axle stubs thinking I'd get Crown #83500201 https://www.quadratec.com/products/52426_05.htm or OMIX #16512.57 https://www.quadratec.com/products/916512_57.htm replacements since they were only a couple of $...

With everything cleaned up, the ID of the new slingers are about .050" too big in fitting, let alone to press onto the axle stub.

(Please bear in mind the dial caliper used to measure is old and battered so measurements may not be precise).

Measuring the axle stub where the slinger presses on I get about 2.725" OD.

The old slingers, though battered, measure accordingly for a press fitting on the axle stub.

I measure the ID of the new slinger #83500201 and get about 2.775". They're about .050 to big in fitting, let alone pressing on...

I spoke to Crown about this who told me they are specified as 2.785" ID and that Spicer actually specifies 2.790" which is well within tolerance as press fit. Makes perfect sense.

(As an aside, it was very cool to call Crown Automotive and get someone on the phone right away who provided expert knowledge on the slinger.)



What I don't understand is why my axle stub measures about 2.725" OD about the area the slinger should press on when I see plenty of parts diagrams on many part retailer web sites specifying this #83500201 as the specific replacement part. I see no comments, posts or anything anywhere regarding this issue, so I'm wondering if I may be missing something.


I looked at the factory parts manual and they do not provide a part number for the slinger, but do show the axle stub, slinger and something that looks like a sleeve of some sort....

Is there some sort of spacing sleeve that should press on with the slinger?




Any assistance would be greatly appreciated with this.

If all else fails I could probably reuse the old slingers.

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Old Jul 13, 2020 | 12:04 PM
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My 97-98 parts catalog (Oct. 97) shows the same image, but is numbered differently.




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Old Jul 13, 2020 | 03:46 PM
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Thank you for looking into this and for the note fb97xj1....
I see #83500201 as the part number in a lot of places...
What I don't get is why I seem to be the only person who has axle stubs that it does not fit on... ;-) LOL....

I'm in the Chicago area and talked with a guy at a local specialized drive-line shop today who felt the #83500201 I received might be for a Dana 50.
We're trying to get our hands on the Spicer #36364 slinger to see if that fits.
I've seen a lot of vague and misleading posts on retail part seller's website on all of these part numbers and hope to get clarity.

If anyone else in CherokeeForum Land is experienced with this,,, please feel free to speak up...
Can anyone tell me what the correct part number is for the front outer axle stub slinger on a 1998 Jeep Cherokee Sport XJ with a Dana 30 non-disconnect, non-ABS?

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Old Jul 14, 2020 | 04:20 PM
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Just thought I should post a followup:
If you are looking for an front outer axle stub slinger for the 98 XJ Sport I6 4.0, Dana 30 front non-disconnect, non-ABS get part:

Spicer 46988.

This is specified to have a 2.735" ID which is what my axle stubs measure. Press fits is perfect...
(Guess I know now my dial caliper is off by .010" now.... )

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Old Jul 14, 2020 | 05:47 PM
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Looks like im in the same boat as i just pulled an axle shaft to do u-joints, and that part is right where i need to hit the yoke. No clue what the diameter is tho. Mine is a 97, but the same axle and brakes, so it 'should' be the same thing. We shall see.
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Old Jul 17, 2020 | 12:54 PM
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The Jeep parts manual seems to specify 83500201 as the outer axle stub oil slinger in some cases. In others it is not specified.

Crown Automotive provides an aftermarket slinger using the same part number, and OMIX provides the same numbered 16512.57...
These measure ~ 2.785" ID and are comparable to Spicer 40589.

The Spicer 46988 measures ~2.735" ID and is what worked for me.
I have seen this specified for for vacuum disconnect, but mine is not a vac-disconnect. I don't know why there is a discrepancy.

You may see a slinger part number 36364 also if you are searching on line.
I am advised these are for CJ series Dana 30s, measure 3.120" ID and will be too small ID for an XJs outer axle stub.

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Old Jul 18, 2020 | 10:27 AM
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I'm getting the parts together to do my front u-joints, so I've been following threads like this one to be sure I know how pull the axle shafts and to be sure I order everything I need. What are these oil slingers, where do they go, and do I need to replace them when I pull my axle shafts to change the u-joints?

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Old Jul 18, 2020 | 08:34 PM
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Just wanted to thank the OP for this post and providing the correct part number. I was in the process of re-building a set of front axles on my 98 and dented my oil slingers pretty good getting the u joints out. Now I have the correct replacement ones that I needed. I really appreciate it.
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Old Jul 21, 2020 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by IJM
I'm getting the parts together to do my front u-joints, so I've been following threads like this one to be I know how pull the axle shafts and to be sure I order everything I need. What are these oil slingers, where do they go, and do I need to replace them?
'Oil Slingers' are typically a ring that is pressed onto/around a shaft that spins and protrude out perpendicular around that shaft.
As the shaft may be in contact with oil while the shaft spins, oil will flow to the largest diameter of the shaft and then get slung off.
Oil in contact with a spinning shaft will follow a path the the largest diameter and get 'slung' off the shaft, further lubricating other parts.

In this use case of a 'slinger, there is no oil involved, so calling it an oil slinger is a little misleading. (Oil Slinger is just a generalized term).
In this use case the slinger is pressed onto the outer axle stub shaft outside of the u-joint, inside of the shaft area that connects to the wheel hub.
In the picture below you see it pressed onto the axle stub shaft and the second picture attempts to show where it is when assembled.

This slinger is used as a water/dirt/mud shield.
It covers the back of the hub and is used to 'sling' away water/dirt/mud/etc which can collect and cause premature failure of your hub assemblies.
Surely some will say it's not needed, while others will want it there to protect their hubs...





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Old Jul 21, 2020 | 10:58 AM
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Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the detailed answer. I thought those were called dust shields, so I was confused when I saw "oil slinger" thinking those would go on the inside where there's actually oil.

I'll be installing some outer seals in place of those slingers/dust covers, so they're coming off anyway. Those new seals should keep the crud out better.
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Old Jul 21, 2020 | 04:10 PM
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I feel I've been through the 'ringer' on this 'slinger'..... LOL

Just to be absolutely clear and certain there is no confusion as to the part being discussed in this forum post.

This forum post is about the OUTER AXLE STUB SHAFT DUST SLINGER that is pressed onto the outer axle stub shaft to prevent debris buildup on the inside of the wheel hub assembly.

This forum post is not about that cheap little plastic disk pressed onto the inner axle shaft I will refer to as the Axle Tube Dust Cap/Cover/Slinger which is commonly replaced with an Axle Tube Seal kit such as that produced by Ten Factory or whoever. (And is constantly confused with the slinger I am referring to throughout this post!)

I believe I've provided enough pictures explaining this already. Here are a few more for absolute clarity.


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Old Sep 29, 2023 | 01:25 PM
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Smile Same Issue Thanks for Trailblazing

Same Issue: I have a '97 Cherokee and have the exact issue. have already ordered and returned the Crown # 83500201 and the Spicer # 36364. Now I found your post and will try the Spicer 46988.
Thanks again.
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