Coolant junction?
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From: Alaska
Year: 2000 sport
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: New 4.0l from s&j engines
Just because some guy from another forum got a BJ from fram dont make them any good. Just go look at all the vids on youtube about fram filters.
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Fram oil filters being no good, have nothing to do with the opinions of the CF elders. Just because some guy from another forum got a BJ from fram dont make them any good. Just go look at all the vids on youtube about fram filters. Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRgw4B7R-I
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From: Blunt, South Dakota
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.6 stroker
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Year: 97
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Engine: 4.6 stroker
I'll just leave this here:
So...yeah, when you have a ton of money wrapped up in a race vehicle, being **** is what saves you from wasting money. I applaud him for doing so, and posting his experience. Go cut open a few hundred filters and post back when you have actual data.
You need to pull the top and bottom off of the pleats and unroll the filter material to see how much is there and what all it has filtered out. That tells the tale of the tape so to say. I applaud you for at least cutting one open to see what's going on inside where some post to just shoot off there mouth without a clue about them.
I have did this after every race on my race cars to check for any engine problems before they become to serious, filters are cheap and what get dirty anyway not the oil. The oil 8 qts. was changed each weekend of racing if there were no problems.
I also do the same with all of my cars and trucks since 1994, just a habit and I have 3 different oil filter cutters laying around anyway. With the tool it only takes about 2 min to cut open and inspect the filter to see what's up.
I have did this after every race on my race cars to check for any engine problems before they become to serious, filters are cheap and what get dirty anyway not the oil. The oil 8 qts. was changed each weekend of racing if there were no problems.
I also do the same with all of my cars and trucks since 1994, just a habit and I have 3 different oil filter cutters laying around anyway. With the tool it only takes about 2 min to cut open and inspect the filter to see what's up.
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C'mon dude. You've been here for a while. There is a core group of highly opinionated oil and filter geeks on here that take every opportunity to keep the myth alive and promote their own biases. This is the crew that is brewing the koolaide.
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From: Blunt, South Dakota
Year: 97
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Yeah, I have been here a while. As have they. And, with all those years of combined experiences, and actual data, I know where I stand on the subject. You are the ONLY one here saying otherwise. I don't know if you work for Fram, or just have a hard-on for the brand, but I have seen the results first hand. As have the other "elders" on the site. Blaming "older filter technology" as they did in that forum post you put up is a bunch of BS. People are still cutting them open to this day, and getting the same results. Data is data, but opinions are like A-holes, we all have one, but no one wants to hear yours, LOL....take the time and start being **** with your filters and post the results. Prove us all wrong.
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
Hang in there southsidecatac........if u don't run a specific brand of oil filter AND your coolant temp is not precisely 210F all the time, then doom and gloom will be upon u and your XJ....so some say.
Ain't it great living in a free country expressing ones own opinion(s) freely on both sides of the fence.....yep, that's my opinion anyway.
Ain't it great living in a free country expressing ones own opinion(s) freely on both sides of the fence.....yep, that's my opinion anyway.
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
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It's amazing how some can can become so obsessed over motor oil and filter technology that they elevate it to the level of rocket science. Astounding! Keep on fighting that fight boys. I know it's like a religion to some of you. And we all know that many wars have been started over ideological differences.
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It's amazing how some can can become so obsessed over motor oil and filter technology that they elevate it to the level of rocket science. Astounding! Keep on fighting that fight boys. I know it's like a religion to some of you. And we all know that many wars have been started over ideological differences.
My 2¢- fram sucks, but if your that dogged to keep using them, go for it.