Completely random misfires
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Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 2.5
Now, before anyone says anything, I’ve done my testing and replaced what came out faulty.
Essentially, I’ve been having a very inconsistent and random misfires in any given gear. Doesn’t matter if I floor it, accelerate like a grandma, or anything in between, it’ll miss and then never miss again for a time.
Now, I had thought that the MAP sensor was going out, and I tested it. Found some dead spots in the voltage as I drew more vacuum, so I replaced that.
No change in that.
Tested the TPS, found that it was reading the wrong voltage at idle, and would also give false readings after I moved the throttle blade, so I replaced that.
Still no change.
Ignition coil checks out at 1.2 ohms, and I just did wires, cap, rotor and plugs.
I also tested the crank sensor, it reads in 5 volt increments, even when hot, with no dead spots. (I hand turned the crank while back probing the sensor wire), so that checks out.
Only thing I haven’t checked is the distributor sync, but if the distributor was out of sync then it would misfire all the time, right?
Anyway, i’m trying to narrow this problem down. Since I don’t have OBD2, I can only really guess. After I changed the MAP sensor and the TPS, my Jeep felt way different. I’m netting better MPG, i’m able to hold my speed up a hill in 5th gear, and it accelerates a little easier.
Well, that really only leaves a few things:
Vacuum leak? Eh. The only one I have as of right now is at the intake port on the 3rd cylinder, and i’m changing the gasket this weekend.
O2 sensor? Maybe. I doubt it’s ever been replaced since 95, and it would make sense if it acts up and reports the wrong AFR, causing a misfire
Jumping timing? Doubt it. If it jumped timing then id be down on compression, and I doubt this thing would run
Stuck lifters? Again, doubt it. If I had a stuck lifter, it would miss a lot more than randomly.
Leaky injector? Eh. Most of the times i’ve seen a leaky injector, it just runs rich and you have trouble starting after you warmed it up.
I would love some suggestions on what to do next. I’ve already ordered a timing chain, water pump with gasket, o2 sensor, motor mounts and transmission mounts, output shaft seal and some redline MT90, and I plan on doing that very soon when it gets here.
Essentially, I’ve been having a very inconsistent and random misfires in any given gear. Doesn’t matter if I floor it, accelerate like a grandma, or anything in between, it’ll miss and then never miss again for a time.
Now, I had thought that the MAP sensor was going out, and I tested it. Found some dead spots in the voltage as I drew more vacuum, so I replaced that.
No change in that.
Tested the TPS, found that it was reading the wrong voltage at idle, and would also give false readings after I moved the throttle blade, so I replaced that.
Still no change.
Ignition coil checks out at 1.2 ohms, and I just did wires, cap, rotor and plugs.
I also tested the crank sensor, it reads in 5 volt increments, even when hot, with no dead spots. (I hand turned the crank while back probing the sensor wire), so that checks out.
Only thing I haven’t checked is the distributor sync, but if the distributor was out of sync then it would misfire all the time, right?
Anyway, i’m trying to narrow this problem down. Since I don’t have OBD2, I can only really guess. After I changed the MAP sensor and the TPS, my Jeep felt way different. I’m netting better MPG, i’m able to hold my speed up a hill in 5th gear, and it accelerates a little easier.
Well, that really only leaves a few things:
Vacuum leak? Eh. The only one I have as of right now is at the intake port on the 3rd cylinder, and i’m changing the gasket this weekend.
O2 sensor? Maybe. I doubt it’s ever been replaced since 95, and it would make sense if it acts up and reports the wrong AFR, causing a misfire
Jumping timing? Doubt it. If it jumped timing then id be down on compression, and I doubt this thing would run
Stuck lifters? Again, doubt it. If I had a stuck lifter, it would miss a lot more than randomly.
Leaky injector? Eh. Most of the times i’ve seen a leaky injector, it just runs rich and you have trouble starting after you warmed it up.
I would love some suggestions on what to do next. I’ve already ordered a timing chain, water pump with gasket, o2 sensor, motor mounts and transmission mounts, output shaft seal and some redline MT90, and I plan on doing that very soon when it gets here.
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From: North Augusta, SC
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4L
Secondary ignition is what comes to mind when I read this. A secondary ignition misfire feels like fishbites. Like a little (or hard) nibble, but not rhythmic.
Secondary ignition is anything from the coil to the spark plug. Coil, cap, rotor, wires, or plugs.
I had one very recently. I went ahead and changed the cap, rotor, plugs, and wires, but it stayed. I found a massive crack in my ignition coil, but only after I hosed it down with degreaser and wiped it down. I'm 99% sure it's the original 352k mile coil.
Secondary ignition is anything from the coil to the spark plug. Coil, cap, rotor, wires, or plugs.
I had one very recently. I went ahead and changed the cap, rotor, plugs, and wires, but it stayed. I found a massive crack in my ignition coil, but only after I hosed it down with degreaser and wiped it down. I'm 99% sure it's the original 352k mile coil.
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From: Lost in the wilds of Virginia
Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Another possibility is the connection to the coil from the PCM. If it's loose, it will bounce around and produce random misfires.
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Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 2.5
The connector for the coil lost its clip, and was halfway plugging in. I taped it down in place and so far so good. Not a single stumble ever since Friday.
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