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Brake troubles
I recently replaced my brakes, with drums in the rear and disk in the front. After bleeding the brakes I still have to use excess force on the brake pedal to get her to stop. Before I did the brakes everything was just fine, but now I'm stumped. Any ideas??
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"still" have to use excess force....was it this way before you replaced anything?
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Originally Posted by Radi
(Post 1746764)
"still" have to use excess force....was it this way before you replaced anything?
Also, I disconnected the abs system. I've removed all the abs fuses and relays along with the wiring. Could there be something else I'm missing?? |
And...did you adjust the rears so you ended up with a nice firm petal?
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Doesn't the ABS system require power bleeding because of the pump? Otherwise it's a pain to clear air from the system, especially if the lines have been opened.
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Originally Posted by radio flyer
(Post 1746791)
Doesn't the ABS system require power bleeding because of the pump? Otherwise it's a pain to clear air from the system, especially if the lines have been opened.
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Is that the Bendix system with the assist pump in place of a vacuum brake booster?
If so, did you happen to disconnect the pump or wiring? |
I have a 99 XJ that had ABS. I swapped over to an 8.25 eliminating the ABS. Removed the fuses and just cut the wiring, never touched the pump or the lines. Just did a rear disc conversion on it and didn't have any issues bleeding the brakes. Mine didn't need power to bleed them. I have heard those earlier 90's brake systems are a PITA though.
I'm wondering about 2 things here. 1. Are the pads and shoes seated correctly that you replaced? If something is not seated correctly and able to move it will give a harder pedal. 2. A brake booster is normally the culprit for a very hard pedal. Check the vacuum line going to it. I'm hoping you didn't over extend the rod off of the master cylinder into the booster and damage it by pressing the pedal too far to the floor. |
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Originally Posted by Lyon
(Post 1746817)
I have a 99 XJ that had ABS. I swapped over to an 8.25 eliminating the ABS. Removed the fuses and just cut the wiring, never touched the pump or the lines. Just did a rear disc conversion on it and didn't have any issues bleeding the brakes. Mine didn't need power to bleed them. I have heard those earlier 90's brake systems are a PITA though.
I'm wondering about 2 things here. 1. Are the pads and shoes seated correctly that you replaced? If something is not seated correctly and able to move it will give a harder pedal. 2. A brake booster is normally the culprit for a very hard pedal. Check the vacuum line going to it. I'm hoping you didn't over extend the rod off of the master cylinder into the booster and damage it by pressing the pedal too far to the floor. |
Originally Posted by radio flyer
(Post 1746820)
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Originally Posted by Lyon
(Post 1746817)
2. A brake booster is normally the culprit for a very hard pedal. Check the vacuum line going to it. I'm hoping you didn't over extend the rod off of the master cylinder into the booster and damage it by pressing the pedal too far to the floor.
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Originally Posted by Radi
(Post 1746831)
that's the thing...if it's a Bendix system, there is no vacuum booster. It's a pump/accumulator setup that operates the ABS and provides power assist during normal braking. If that was disconnected....no power assist.
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Originally Posted by Radi
(Post 1746831)
that's the thing...if it's a Bendix system, there is no vacuum booster. It's a pump/accumulator setup that operates the ABS and provides power assist during normal braking. If that was disconnected....no power assist.
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Originally Posted by Radi
(Post 1746831)
that's the thing...if it's a Bendix system, there is no vacuum booster. It's a pump/accumulator setup that operates the ABS and provides power assist during normal braking. If that was disconnected....no power assist.
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