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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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So there was no work, at work, my day off, felt like being lazy so I go to work and borrow a lift, to install my stainless steel extended brake lines.

While it was in the air, had a couple of techs comment on somethings that I want clarification on.

(remember its completely off the ground and even though its a 3" lift, it looks like it has a 6-7" lift)

one mentioned that it looks like i have too much of an angle on the Pitman arm and the track bar and said that its putting too much strain on the joints and i need a dropped pitman arm and a modified track bar. I know that its in the air and its more extreme angles than if I was on the ground, but wont I have those kind of angles on the trails?
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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your fine at a 3" lift and stock steering

it won't break because of the angles, but stock steering is still weak
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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ahh, the previous owner did the swap with a zj for the main arm from the pitman to the tie rod, but i still gotta do the swap on the other one
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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you cant judge stuff like that when the suspension isnt loaded........
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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THANKS!
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gearheadette
ahh, the previous owner did the swap with a zj for the main arm from the pitman to the tie rod, but i still gotta do the swap on the other one
that means they swapped in the same drag link

xj and xj are the same

its the tie rod thats different
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
that means they swapped in the same drag link

xj and xj are the same

its the tie rod thats different
no the zj units are stronger if you pull the v8 ones but still not the best setup. i think the curry is the best setup for us.
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curry?





(a1racer i thought you were only good at making fun of me)
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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It's spelled Currie. But it is pronounced "expensive". But from what I read you are paying for great quality.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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is that the brand?
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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http://www.currieenterprises.com/
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Originally Posted by gearheadette
curry?





(a1racer i thought you were only good at making fun of me)
A1, you better be nice!
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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The tie rod from a stock XJ or a 6 cyl ZJ is made from a rolled sheet metal tube and is very weak. The tie rod from a mid to late 90's ZJ with a V8 is a solid steel unit and is much stronger. The only down side to the ZJ V8 tie rod is that it has a slight downward bend that will reduce the ground clearance a little. If you want to reduce steering angles on your 3 inch lift use the pitman arm from a ZJ as well. It will give a 1 inch drop over the stock XJ piece, but is not needed with only a 3 inch lift.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 01:46 AM
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im runnin 4.5" with stock pitman and '97-ZJ draglink+tierod.....cost me $35 at the JY and they had low miles on em which is why i grabbed both as the boots on mine were none existant

ive also got the ZJ pitman(at the same time) but with a 600ft/lbs impact and puller could not get it off my jeep but ive yet to have problems so ill just wait till i swap in a durango box to put on the new arm

and tell the techs to go do somethin else i remember at my old shop they would pick mine apart anytime i had it on the hoist and point out every little thing just to bug me...jerks
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by winston427
The tie rod from a stock XJ or a 6 cyl ZJ is made from a rolled sheet metal tube and is very weak. The tie rod from a mid to late 90's ZJ with a V8 is a solid steel unit and is much stronger. The only down side to the ZJ V8 tie rod is that it has a slight downward bend that will reduce the ground clearance a little. If you want to reduce steering angles on your 3 inch lift use the pitman arm from a ZJ as well. It will give a 1 inch drop over the stock XJ piece, but is not needed with only a 3 inch lift.
Thanks for the better explanation Winston I have been away from home all day and using the I-phone so it's hard to type that much. But yup right on the dot it is a very good cheap upgrade for you junk yard hunters. And sorry about the misspell on currie my phone has issues with some words.
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