Battery crap
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From: Milwaukee, WI
Year: 1987
Engine: Check
Is it a bad idea to move my battery from one truck to another?
Over the past week and a half I've come to learn that I've got too many vehicles and not enough time to drive them.
Normally this wouldn't be a bad thing at all. But its starting to become a bit of a hassle, possibly costing me money. Those are bad things.
I tried to start my pickup [the hauler] and the battery was toast. Charged it, still nothing. I can't let the battery sit at all or she'll lose a charge. I can jump start her no problem, even push start, but I'm sure the battery is done.
The XJ can sit for over a week and not miss a beat. I can climb in her and she'll fire right up.
Instead of trying to track down a battery drain on a 1992 Ford F150 can I just pull the battery out of the XJ when needed and put it into the Ford? I can most likely fab up some sort of quick disconnect, so it won't be difficult to move from one to the other.
I'd like to hear everyone's concerns and comments.
Over the past week and a half I've come to learn that I've got too many vehicles and not enough time to drive them.
Normally this wouldn't be a bad thing at all. But its starting to become a bit of a hassle, possibly costing me money. Those are bad things.
I tried to start my pickup [the hauler] and the battery was toast. Charged it, still nothing. I can't let the battery sit at all or she'll lose a charge. I can jump start her no problem, even push start, but I'm sure the battery is done.
The XJ can sit for over a week and not miss a beat. I can climb in her and she'll fire right up.
Instead of trying to track down a battery drain on a 1992 Ford F150 can I just pull the battery out of the XJ when needed and put it into the Ford? I can most likely fab up some sort of quick disconnect, so it won't be difficult to move from one to the other.
I'd like to hear everyone's concerns and comments.
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From: Milwaukee, WI
Year: 1987
Engine: Check
Here is what I've thought, and my concerns:
Are the motors (4.9L vs 4.0L) different enough to need different batteries with different Cold Cranking Amps (CCAs)? Someone once claimed that a battery has the potential to fry wires if its too powerful. No proof was offered, so that may be BS.
I could toss a trickle charger on, but the truck sits outside, and running wires out in the WI weather isn't great. Not to mention its not in a fenced in area, so someone could snag my gear. If I brought it inside it defeates the purpose of making this easier for myself. If I was gonna do that I'd rather not replace the bad one and just keep using the one good one, I'll just move the battery from one truck to the other.
The ECU keeps fuel trims and CEL information stored in its memory, but that'll get erased every time the battery is removed. Could this cause issues?
Neither truck has a good working radio, so I'm not worried about losing my presets on the radio.
Are the motors (4.9L vs 4.0L) different enough to need different batteries with different Cold Cranking Amps (CCAs)? Someone once claimed that a battery has the potential to fry wires if its too powerful. No proof was offered, so that may be BS.
I could toss a trickle charger on, but the truck sits outside, and running wires out in the WI weather isn't great. Not to mention its not in a fenced in area, so someone could snag my gear. If I brought it inside it defeates the purpose of making this easier for myself. If I was gonna do that I'd rather not replace the bad one and just keep using the one good one, I'll just move the battery from one truck to the other.
The ECU keeps fuel trims and CEL information stored in its memory, but that'll get erased every time the battery is removed. Could this cause issues?
Neither truck has a good working radio, so I'm not worried about losing my presets on the radio.
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I don't think it is. At the end of May I had the ALT rebuilt, as well as the regulator. So that end of things are perfect. And it runs fine on its own juice without the battery.
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The problem, however, isn't just the battery being cold. The oil and other moving parts are cold and also hinder startup.
I'm guessing you weren't so concerned with the battery getting cold, but I thought I'd toss this into the mix so its covered early.
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Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
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Here is what I've thought, and my concerns:
Are the motors (4.9L vs 4.0L) different enough to need different batteries with different Cold Cranking Amps (CCAs)? Someone once claimed that a battery has the potential to fry wires if its too powerful. No proof was offered, so that may be BS.
I could toss a trickle charger on, but the truck sits outside, and running wires out in the WI weather isn't great. Not to mention its not in a fenced in area, so someone could snag my gear. If I brought it inside it defeates the purpose of making this easier for myself. If I was gonna do that I'd rather not replace the bad one and just keep using the one good one, I'll just move the battery from one truck to the other.
The ECU keeps fuel trims and CEL information stored in its memory, but that'll get erased every time the battery is removed. Could this cause issues?
Neither truck has a good working radio, so I'm not worried about losing my presets on the radio.
Are the motors (4.9L vs 4.0L) different enough to need different batteries with different Cold Cranking Amps (CCAs)? Someone once claimed that a battery has the potential to fry wires if its too powerful. No proof was offered, so that may be BS.
I could toss a trickle charger on, but the truck sits outside, and running wires out in the WI weather isn't great. Not to mention its not in a fenced in area, so someone could snag my gear. If I brought it inside it defeates the purpose of making this easier for myself. If I was gonna do that I'd rather not replace the bad one and just keep using the one good one, I'll just move the battery from one truck to the other.
The ECU keeps fuel trims and CEL information stored in its memory, but that'll get erased every time the battery is removed. Could this cause issues?
Neither truck has a good working radio, so I'm not worried about losing my presets on the radio.

Why not fix the trucks problem?
If the vehicle has a problem that trips a cel, it will just trip it again.
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Fixing the truck's problem would involve replacing the bad battery. Its an older, poorly maintained battery.
I've got 3 trucks and a motorcycle. Only 2 ppl to drive them.
No need to buy extra batteries if we aren't gonna be using them all.
None are tossing CELs, but it was something that COULD happen, so I'm trying to cover all my bases in advance.
What about fuel trims? Other stored info in the "ECU" that will get erased? Worth being concerned about?
I've got 3 trucks and a motorcycle. Only 2 ppl to drive them.
No need to buy extra batteries if we aren't gonna be using them all.
None are tossing CELs, but it was something that COULD happen, so I'm trying to cover all my bases in advance.
What about fuel trims? Other stored info in the "ECU" that will get erased? Worth being concerned about?
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From: Wantage, NJ
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Wait, 3 trucks, bike and xj?
I remove my battery almost weekly to work on the dd, most of the info isnt stored in the ecu/pcm, it is registered upon start up. For example, replace a IAC, it idles high for about 1 minute and drops as the ecu begins to recognize it, why? cause the ecu is also sending info to the sensors about where it should be. Nothing to worry about
I remove my battery almost weekly to work on the dd, most of the info isnt stored in the ecu/pcm, it is registered upon start up. For example, replace a IAC, it idles high for about 1 minute and drops as the ecu begins to recognize it, why? cause the ecu is also sending info to the sensors about where it should be. Nothing to worry about
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Sorry, no.
XJ, TJ, F150, FZR600/750R
In a week or so adding a 92 XJ 4 door to the fleet as well. So 4 trucks and a bike with only 2 people to drive them. My fiance and myself.
Thats alotta unused, unnecessary battery.
[necessary? necessary?!? Is is necessary to drink my own urine? NO! But its sterile and I like the taste!]
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The only vehicles I've ever seen that might have a problem with that are Mitsubishis. Both my old Avenger and my current Stratus will absolutely lose their minds if you disconnect the battery and it takes about a week of driving to get them to relearn everything.
Otherwise, shouldn't be any issue unless you forget your favorite radio presets.
Otherwise, shouldn't be any issue unless you forget your favorite radio presets.
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The only vehicles I've ever seen that might have a problem with that are Mitsubishis. Both my old Avenger and my current Stratus will absolutely lose their minds if you disconnect the battery and it takes about a week of driving to get them to relearn everything.
Otherwise, shouldn't be any issue unless you forget your favorite radio presets.
Otherwise, shouldn't be any issue unless you forget your favorite radio presets.
No one got the dodgeball reference, eh?
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