bada$$91xj

alright guys i have a 94 jeep xj sport 4x4 with a dana 30 front axle without the vacumn bs and was wandering when i was installing my hd ball joints they came with a split ring for the steering knuckles mines doesnt look like they have split rings what year did they faze these out and im not sure i forget if i have a hp30 or still low i know the person i bought it from swapped a new axle under it thank you.

Oswalla

You don't have them. If I remember right those were used in the 80's full size cherokee.

bada$$91xj

alright just so everyone else knows they were phased out in the early 90s.

bada$$91xj

i'm in the process of changing all the ball joints on a 94 xj with low pinion dana 30 and as soon as i torque the upper ball joint to 75 ftlbs the steering knuckles still turns good but as soon as i tighten the lower ball joint to 75 the steering knuckle barely moves i know these knuckles dont have the preload spacer/bushing piece in knuckle please help.

89Laredo

No need to start a new thread: merged.

Why does your 94 have a LP 30? It's from a 00-01?

bada$$91xj

well like i stated before the previous owner said aka he swapped it out by looking at it, it is a low pinion and could this matter for torqueing the ball joint studs i know there the same torque specs but are they the same part themselves the ball joints

PatHenry

The part spans 85-2001 per the Autozone website. So the joint should be the same for a 94 as it is for the 00-01, like previously stated you don't use the sleeve or clip.

Is the joint greaseable? If so it may be a little tight until you grease it - but if it's binding or like you have to put your shoulder into it to turn it, I'd pull it out and get a different joint.

freegdr

Pe Load spacer stopped in 1990.

bada$$91xj

thanks so far guys i retorqued lower ball joint to 80ftlbs and the upper 75ftlbs works great except the lower nut when ever you spin the knuckle the lower ball joints nut turns and breaks the cotter pins i'm a little bit lost

PatHenry

So the knuckle is turning but the ball joint itself is not?

I feel like your lower joint is bad. The joint should be easier to turn than the knuckle over the joint. So either the knuckle lower hole is expanded out from wear or the joint is too dang tight (meaning the internals of the joint, not the nut being too tight and not the stud too tight on the knuckle (obviously if movement is occurring that is breaking cotter pins.).

bada$$91xj

well i replaced all my ball joints with moog joints i know from all the research i've done their a lil more stiff then the elcheapo ones, and i've also noticed on youtube people changing dana 30 ball joints all the lowers there nuts spin and cotter pins are ok so is it meaning the stud and nut are supposed to spin together?

89Laredo

They're a taper fit, they BJ stud should be locked into the knuckle and turn with it.

bada$$91xj

shouldn't the bj studs lock into the knuckles but still rotate when knuckles are turned thus keeping the ball joint nut turning with the stud?

89Laredo

Yes

bada$$91xj

so any ideas anybody should i try again by torquing the bottom again to 80 ftlbs and if the nut spins again when turning then what? sorry for so many stupid questions just never had this happen before.