Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Ball Joints From hell

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-06-2010, 04:49 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
drakesword's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default Ball Joints From hell

So got my old ball joints out (bottom one took me over 5 hours). And started getting the new ones in. Top one went in no problem.

Bottom one is not going in for crap. I put a press on it and it doesn't move. Applied heat and then pressed no luck. Tapped it with a hammer while press no luck.

Applied enough torque to the press that the press started bowing.

Now the lugs (as I found out last year) are from a grand cherokee.

Is the upper ball joint the same for the grand cherokee but the lower ones different?

I really need to get this back on the road as it is my only form of transportation atm
Old 10-06-2010, 04:52 PM
  #2  
CF Veteran
 
x91j's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 5,390
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Straigh 6
Default

so you have a cherokee with a grand front axle? or what im confused
Old 10-06-2010, 05:01 PM
  #3  
CF Veteran
 
JeepingDan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: CT.
Posts: 18,785
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 88
Engine: 4.0 HO
Default

There's no differents with the ball joints on a d30 from either cherokee or grand.
I know the ball joints are a to bang out and bang in. I've done a few and they suck most of the time.
Put a ton of pressure on it with a ball joint clamp and give a it a couple wacks with a hammer if it starts going in put more pressure and another wack.
Old 10-06-2010, 05:06 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
drakesword's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by x91j
so you have a cherokee with a grand front axle? or what im confused

I'm not sure. I just know that the studs have a smaller diameter and are for a grand cherokee. Its possible that it is from a grand cherokee just I didn't think they had the CAD but mine does. >.> <.<
Old 10-06-2010, 05:07 PM
  #5  
CF Veteran
 
Cherockee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Williamsport, Pa
Posts: 1,168
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

I think if you put the ball joint in the freezer it might make it easier- I think that's right. One or the other needs to be cold and the opposite one needs to be hot, but I can't remember which needs to be which. If you get it backwards it'll make it harder to put on.
Old 10-06-2010, 05:07 PM
  #6  
Do you hear banjos?
 
COSXJFAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 9,644
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 3 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Also, the pressing surface on the inner "C" is not level/square with the pressing surface of the ball joint. There is a tapered cup that should help with this issue. It doesn't matter most of the time, but it will help with difficult ones. HTH!!
Old 10-06-2010, 05:58 PM
  #7  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
drakesword's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

So heh got it in but the adjuster nut is a hunk of rust. Cant get it apart. Need a new knuckle. Anyone in central Va have one they want to donate or sell to me?
Old 10-07-2010, 01:17 AM
  #8  
CF Veteran
 
caged's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 7,874
Received 94 Likes on 85 Posts
Year: 1990, 1999, 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

maybe now's the time to go with WJ knuckles...
Old 10-07-2010, 09:53 AM
  #9  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
drakesword's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

friend at a machine shop got it free.

How tight should the castle nuts be. The knuckle is still bout 3/16" away from the boot
Old 10-07-2010, 10:23 AM
  #10  
CF Veteran
 
caged's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 7,874
Received 94 Likes on 85 Posts
Year: 1990, 1999, 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

should be around 75 lbs/ft.
Old 10-07-2010, 01:39 PM
  #11  
Junior Member
 
lambo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Carver, Ma.
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Not for nuthin a a ball joint press bowing? Thats a first for me.
Old 10-07-2010, 09:00 PM
  #12  
CF Veteran
 
caged's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
Posts: 7,874
Received 94 Likes on 85 Posts
Year: 1990, 1999, 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

i just did all 4 ball joints today, along with a knuckle swap on my xj.
the old ones were in there pretty good, but a 7a impact worked great on the press.
getting the new ones in was pretty tough too, but with the correct adapters, they eventually sat in place but took some work with the impact.
Old 10-09-2010, 06:01 AM
  #13  
Member
 
99KeeSport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Bennett, CO
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 99
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4L/6
Default

I had the same issue pressing AufoZone ball joints in. I returned them and bought TRW ball joints at Advanced Auto. The TRW ones went in nicely. Good luck.
Old 10-09-2010, 07:31 AM
  #14  
Junior Member
 
teh BOMB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Rapid City,SD
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1988
Engine: 4.0
Default

in my experience, when the old ones come out it is a good idea to use some brake cleaner and a green scuffing pad to clean out where the old ones sat, they reinstall a lot easier
Old 10-09-2010, 02:40 PM
  #15  
Member
 
A_Jeepr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Virginia
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

I did all 4 of mine in about 3 hours, taking my time and cleaning and painting stuff. Snap on makes a good tool to do the job quickly. Getting them out and in.

I don't understand all you guys having problems putting the new ones in....I use top of the line Moog only. Better than the OE.

My 2 cents....use real professional parts, from dealership, Federated/Fisher Auto Parts, or NAPA .....ONLY. Autozone, Advanced, and so on, sell crappy stuff.


Quick Reply: Ball Joints From hell



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:55 AM.