Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Bad TPS causing this issue?

Old Mar 17, 2016 | 08:48 AM
  #31  
Cummins93's Avatar
CF Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 155
From: Northern CT
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Turbo 4.0
Default

Plug in an obd2 with live data. Bring the jeep to operating temp, and observe your timing adv. At 3 different rpms. Also look at your stft and ltft. Unplug the downstream. Take a look at your wideband and recheck your timing at the same 3 points and your fuel trims. Install an aem fic. The tap for the upstream o2 sensor allows you to increase or decrease voltage. Tapping of the downstream isn't required although a o22 tap is provided,... It doesn't effect the tuning of this specific vehicle. Possibly newer vehicles using a factory wideband upstream o2.

OP if you want to replace the downstream go for it I don't see the necessity in replacing non failed parts. If it fails a day after your upstream replacement then fix it.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2016 | 06:33 PM
  #32  
IJM's Avatar
IJM
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,540
Likes: 351
From: District of Columbia
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

I successfully replaced the upstream O2 sensor today. It came right out with a little heat from the MAP torch and a 22mm flare nut wrench. It runs like a champ now. Thanks for all our help, guys.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2016 | 06:34 PM
  #33  
IJM's Avatar
IJM
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,540
Likes: 351
From: District of Columbia
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

I successfully replaced the upstream O2 sensor today. It came right out with a little heat on the bung from the MAP torch and a 22mm flare nut wrench. It runs like a champ now. Thanks for all our help, guys.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2016 | 06:37 PM
  #34  
BlueRidgeMark's Avatar
CF Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 7,965
Likes: 964
From: Lost in the wilds of Virginia
Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Great! Thanks for the report.
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2016 | 10:00 PM
  #35  
darren509's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Santa Rosa CA
Year: 1998
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Sorry to jump in on this thread but Im having similar issues on my 98 and when I unplug my upstream o2 and let it run it does not throw a code. Is that normal or should I check elsewhere?
Reply
Old Mar 23, 2016 | 06:01 AM
  #36  
CCKen's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 8,357
Likes: 103
From: Canton, MI
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by darren509
Sorry to jump in on this thread but Im having similar issues on my 98 and when I unplug my upstream o2 and let it run it does not throw a code. Is that normal or should I check elsewhere?

Not setting a code, or not turning the Check Engine light on?
Reply
Old Mar 23, 2016 | 07:10 AM
  #37  
Cummins93's Avatar
CF Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 155
From: Northern CT
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Turbo 4.0
Default

Does your jeep run correctly when you unplug it?
Reply
Old Mar 23, 2016 | 09:19 AM
  #38  
IJM's Avatar
IJM
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,540
Likes: 351
From: District of Columbia
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

For reference, when I unplugged mine I got a code (O2 sesnsor low voltage or something like that) along with a CEL. It ran fine, as well.
Reply
Old Mar 23, 2016 | 09:55 AM
  #39  
darren509's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Santa Rosa CA
Year: 1998
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by IJM
For reference, when I unplugged mine I got a code (O2 sesnsor low voltage or something like that) along with a CEL. It ran fine, as well.
No code was thrown from unplugging o2 or tps aand let idle for about 5 min. There was no difference in idle when I started the car with o2 unplugged. The car idles worse if the tps is unplugged though. All other sensors will throw codes if I remove them except these 2
Reply
Old Mar 23, 2016 | 10:38 AM
  #40  
Cummins93's Avatar
CF Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 155
From: Northern CT
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Turbo 4.0
Default

Open a new thread describe your problem as directly as possible then list what you have done so far. It may be similar to this situation or completely different but should be opened in your own thread.
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2021 | 10:18 PM
  #41  
87laredo's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
Likes: 1
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by Cummins93
Unplug the upsteam o2 sensor at the connector. Driver side under the motor mount. Without a signal the ecu will run rich in a preset open loop map. You should get a check engine light but if it's the sensor it will run without bucking. No need to mess with the downstream o2 sensor. Test your tps with an analog volt meter, avoid a digital meter if you can. Fuel pressure test will be after these 2 tests simply because it's more testing equipment to buy.
Thank you Cummins93! I was frustrated trying to resolve intermittent dying at idle, intermittent missing/backing off during acceleration, and occasional backfiring through the intake during acceleration. I replaced the IAC and TPS with no joy. Per your recommendation I unplugged the O2 sensor and test drove it. It runs great! Just when I was about to give up on her, after 32 years of faithful service, I'm a happy jeep owner once again! I ordered a new O2 sensor. Thank you for the solution and Happy Trails To You!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
96 country
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
12
Mar 14, 2016 08:59 AM
99stomperXJ
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
15
Mar 6, 2016 06:46 PM
CBacon
Stock Grand Cherokee Tech. All ZJ/WJ/WK Non-modified/stock questions go here!
7
Mar 2, 2016 04:22 PM
Jksymz75
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
2
Feb 25, 2016 07:50 PM
Vince A.S
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
7
Feb 18, 2016 03:29 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:33 PM.