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Colonel Crispy 08-20-2015 09:09 AM

Another New XJ owner here with ?????
 
I have a 95 XJ 4.0L Country 4x4 170K miles. We're changing all fluids and doing a tune up this weekend. My question is should I change the thermostat and water pump when I change the coolant. And are there other parts I should go ahead and replace while I'm changing other fluids. The plan is to drive it for a couple months as is before doing a lift.

Lake00XJ 08-20-2015 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Colonel Crispy (Post 3130168)
I have a 95 XJ 4.0L Country 4x4 170K miles. We're changing all fluids and doing a tune up this weekend. My question is should I change the thermostat and water pump when I change the coolant. And are there other parts I should go ahead and replace while I'm changing other fluids. The plan is to drive it for a couple months as is before doing a lift.

Make sure your radiator is in good shape. Mine cracked within 3 months of owning it.

Colonel Crispy 08-20-2015 09:26 AM

Does it make sense to change the radiator at this time as well?

robertj 08-20-2015 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Colonel Crispy (Post 3130175)
Does it make sense to change the radiator at this time as well?

I would not go that far, but definitely look it over. Changing the thermostat and water pump is cheap insurance though, and I would recommend it since you don't know the history of the Jeep. It's best to use an OEM thermostat.

Fred/N0AZZ 08-20-2015 12:07 PM

^ Agreed ^ But if you do want replace the radiator they are cheap under a $100 at AutoZone with an excellent (in store) warranty my son and I both replaced ours with them, his a 98 mine a 99.


Make sure when you clean/flush the system you do the heater core as well, turn the heat on and the lever on hi heat, most flow.

toasterknight 08-20-2015 12:10 PM

Another New XJ owner here with ?????
 

Originally Posted by Fred/N0AZZ (Post 3130245)
Make sure when you clean/flush the system you do the heater core as well, turn the heat on and the lever on hi heat, most flow.

On the later years you don't have to do this as the beater core is always passing fluid.

EZEARL 08-20-2015 12:24 PM

I haven't priced things recently but last summer you could redo the complete cooling system for $250 or so. Unless you know that some component/components have been replaced your looking at a 20yr old system. Just my opinion but I'd consider redoing the whole system. We all should know by now how critical it is to keep these XJ cooling systems in top+ shape.

madmanmarty 08-20-2015 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by toasterknight (Post 3130247)
On the later years you don't have to do this as the beater core is always passing fluid.

Fred,Toaster.
I have a '94 and am about to do a flush.
I will be removing the bypass valve,and recco OP does the same.
Do we have to move cabin heater controls to perform the flush? (In both directions).

toasterknight 08-20-2015 12:58 PM

Another New XJ owner here with ?????
 

Originally Posted by madmanmarty (Post 3130260)
Fred,Toaster.
I have a '94 and am about to do a flush.
I will be removing the bypass valve,and recco OP does the same.
Do we have to move cabin heater controls to perform the flush? (In both directions).

Without the bypass valve you shouldn't have to worry about it but a proper heater core flush will still do a better job.

Colonel Crispy 08-20-2015 01:27 PM

I haven't priced things recently but last summer you could redo the complete cooling system for $250 or so. Unless you know that some component/components have been replaced your looking at a 20yr old system. Just my opinion but I'd consider redoing the whole system. We all should know by now how critical it is to keep these XJ cooling systems in top+ shape.

^^^^ this is kinda what I was thinking. This is my first jeep. I've always heard jeeps are shade tree mechanic friendly. I haven't totaled the cost of everything together but I'm surprised how inexpensive parts are.

Is there a need to upgrade the radiator?

aj2494 08-20-2015 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Colonel Crispy (Post 3130279)
Is there a need to upgrade the radiator?

I wouldn't put a cheap part store radiator in. Most of those have plastic end tanks, which is the whole problem with the factory ones to begin with. Having a warranty is great on parts, but doesn't help you when your end tank cracks open during a blizzard and strands you and your Jeep on the side of the highway in Canada (ask me how I know :oops:). I replaced the one on my previous XJ with a radiator for around $100 with metal end tanks, but I honestly couldn't find the same one a couple months ago. I swear it had to come from Napa or one of the other physical stores, but I couldn't find it. Ended up putting a CSF 3-core on my current XJ. I got that one from JC Whitney.

If I were you, I would do the water pump and t-stat, but leave the radiator alone. Give it a thorough inspection, paying special attention to the the seams where the end tanks meet the fins. Look for any signs of coolant, and if you see some by the seams, go ahead and replace it. Also check the condition of the end tanks. Mine cracked wide open.

Colonel Crispy 08-21-2015 08:21 AM

Instead of starting a new thread I thought I'd ask this here. Is changing the rear brakes from drums to discs an upgrade only for hardcore off roaders? I'm sure it's going to need brakes soon. Is this an upgrade I should go ahead and do to prepare for bigger tires. I am planning on doing a lift. 3" lift with 31"s will prolly be the most I would do. This is also going to be my sons daily driver.

EZEARL 08-21-2015 08:30 AM

Definitely not for the hardcore type only at all. Soon as I'm able to I'm doing it. It solves a couple issues with the drum brakes on the Cherokees. The clunk when moving from a stop and the grabbing in damp weather. Got my parts here:


https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f71/di...on-kit-159484/

Colonel Crispy 08-21-2015 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by EZEARL (Post 3130743)
Definitely not for the hardcore type only at all. Soon as I'm able to I'm doing it. It solves a couple issues with the drum brakes on the Cherokees. The clunk when moving from a stop and the grabbing in damp weather. Got my parts here:


https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f71/di...on-kit-159484/

Thanks for the link. Ive seen this before but couldn't find it again. I'm pretty sure I have the Dana 35 so it sounds like it just bolts on. I'm not the a mechanical engineer or anything. How long would it take to do the work? Say worst case scenario. Lol. Plan for the worst hope for the best.


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