Another Dumb Oil Question... I did a search
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From: Phoenix, AZ
Year: 96
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My old '89 ran about 20 degrees hotter, than it should have, until the water pump died. Turned out, the impeller was so shot, that it impeded coolant circulation.
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
You should have no problems "burping" an '01 model....just fill it with 50/50 and let it idle a bit with the rad cap off. For a couple of days after, remove the rad cap (engine COLD) and add coolant if necessary. Worked fine on our '98 XJ.
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From: Bradenton FL
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
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You could put a quart of tranny fluid in the oil and drive it for 500 miles then perform
an oil change.
Use Rotella 15w40. I use it and it works great. I rag my jeep alot so it provides the
protection I need.
an oil change.
Use Rotella 15w40. I use it and it works great. I rag my jeep alot so it provides the
protection I need.
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
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......because most factory temp gauges are a joke and I'm simply trying to find out how he can distinguish between 210F and 213F. The XJ factory gauge reads 210F in the middle. The next mark above 210F is 227F, or at least that's what the gradient marks are equal to (210F, 227F, 243F and 260F). How/where does one determine 213F, unless they're using an aftermarket digital gauge?
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From: Brentwood, TN
Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
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......because most factory temp gauges are a joke and I'm simply trying to find out how he can distinguish between 210F and 213F. The XJ factory gauge reads 210F in the middle. The next mark above 210F is 227F, or at least that's what the gradient marks are equal to (210F, 227F, 243F and 260F). How/where does one determine 213F, unless they're using an aftermarket digital gauge?
Also, thanks for the collant tip, I will give it a shop before the summer gets here. I plan to run a 75/25 mixture of water/coolant for the summer.
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From: Brentwood, TN
Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
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Thanks, I thought about it today but I went with the Valvoline high mileage max life synth/blend with a quart of Lucas. I had conv. 10 w30 and could tell it just wasnt working for me. I can tell a big difference in the idle and oil pressure. It runs a little quieter now too.
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
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oh, ok... well my assumtion is that the fan kicks on at around 213 so I would guess that when the fan starts then that is when I have reached the 213 point on my gauge. Mine never actually settles but I do not really ever drive on the highway, just several stop lights and back roads.
Also, thanks for the collant tip, I will give it a shop before the summer gets here. I plan to run a 75/25 mixture of water/coolant for the summer.
Also, thanks for the collant tip, I will give it a shop before the summer gets here. I plan to run a 75/25 mixture of water/coolant for the summer.
Also, with the coolant/water mix you refer to, just remember that the antifreeze is what provides lubricant to the water pump, corrosion protection to the entire cooling system and extra boil-over protection. More water and less antifreeze will change operating temp only slightly but will definitely lower corrosion protection to the cooling system.
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From: Brentwood, TN
Year: 2001
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Sounds like your type of driving falls under "SEVERE" driving conditions and proper/frequent maintenance is a must.
Also, with the coolant/water mix you refer to, just remember that the antifreeze is what provides lubricant to the water pump, corrosion protection to the entire cooling system and extra boil-over protection. More water and less antifreeze will change operating temp only slightly but will definitely lower corrosion protection to the cooling system.
Also, with the coolant/water mix you refer to, just remember that the antifreeze is what provides lubricant to the water pump, corrosion protection to the entire cooling system and extra boil-over protection. More water and less antifreeze will change operating temp only slightly but will definitely lower corrosion protection to the cooling system.
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when was the last time you changed your thermostat? if you haven't done that in a while, i almost guarantee you that's what is causing your temp to go above 210. mine did. but here's the catch though, i think my old and well abused thermostat was giving me a slight bit better gas mileage than the new 195.
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From: Sutton, New Hampshire
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
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That's verified with an infrared thermometer on the return port of the head, where logically you'd have the hottest coolant in the system, and with the temperature gauge reading exactly on the 210 mark. It came out as 214, so I'd say the factory temp gauge can be pretty accurate. Just because yours isn't doesn't mean that every single one on the face of the planet is.
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From: NW Florida
Year: 1999
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
. It was a legitimate question. Sometimes I think I've accidentally logged onto a forum for teenage girls to discuss which of the latest vampire movies is best.
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From: Brentwood, TN
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when was the last time you changed your thermostat? if you haven't done that in a while, i almost guarantee you that's what is causing your temp to go above 210. mine did. but here's the catch though, i think my old and well abused thermostat was giving me a slight bit better gas mileage than the new 195.
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
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The only temp gauge I can think of that may be more inaccurate than a factory temp gauge is one of those point-n-shoot infrared things.
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Good luck figuring out your problem, OP.
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From: NW Florida
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Like I said, it was a legitimate question, and one that I too was interested in learning about. He wasn't challenging you as was stated earlier, it was just a question of how you did it so that others could learn. I'm done.


