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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 07:57 PM
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Default '90 XJ High-pitched whistle and idles high

Sounds like a vacuum leak under hood. Goes away as throttle is increased.
Does it intermittently after engine is at operating temp.
Whistles really loud and very high in pitch @ idle and slightly above idle , then goes away as throttle is opened more. It is driving me crazy. Embarrassing , but the Jeep drives/runs fine otherwise.
Got it to do it with hood open in driveway and sounds like it is near the top of the engine but cannot pin point location. Checked all vacuum lines I can see.
Anyone had this problem ?
t definitely sounds like a vacuum problem to me , not a bearing noise , the other giveaway being the idle jumping from usual 650 or so up to 1000 RPM and staying there (lean condition).
Idle speed is normal when sound goes away.
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 08:59 PM
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I've got something similar going on right now with my 94. I'm 99% sure mine is my intake/exhaust manifold gasket. It makes the same annoying high pitch noise at idle...
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 10:55 PM
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Wow...I was hoping it wasn't that but that is where it is.
If I find the location I will use high-temp silicone on it. Gotta be a small hole.

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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 11:29 PM
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3-foot section of 1/2" hose in your ear is good for localizing sharp noises.

If you hear it around the throttle body, replace the throttle body gasket with new dealer piece; the old ones get brittle and crack. Also remove the IAC and remove the IAC sub-housing from the throttle body. Clean it all up and replace that gasket with RTV.
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 03:41 PM
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Spray carb cleaner around suspected areas at idle. You'll know when you hit the leaking spot.
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ehall
3-foot section of 1/2" hose in your ear is good for localizing sharp noises.

If you hear it around the throttle body, replace the throttle body gasket with new dealer piece; the old ones get brittle and crack. Also remove the IAC and remove the IAC sub-housing from the throttle body. Clean it all up and replace that gasket with RTV.
Wow...great reply. The noise IS from the top of the engine.
Going out now to investigate.
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ehall
3-foot section of 1/2" hose in your ear is good for localizing sharp noises.

If you hear it around the throttle body, replace the throttle body gasket with new dealer piece; the old ones get brittle and crack. Also remove the IAC and remove the IAC sub-housing from the throttle body. Clean it all up and replace that gasket with RTV.
Great idea...happen to have a LOT of 1/2 inch hose as I bought the wrong size a while back.
Have RTV too : )
TB gasket was cracked at the middle on the valve cover side. Though I could not get it to whistle , I got it to make a honking sound after I loosened the TB bolts.
The dreaded whistle is back...NOT the TB. Did it at AZ in parking lot to get TB gasket.
Put on stethoscope with bell removed and listened with tubing end.
Sound very loud near #1 injector....hope it is this , NOT the intake gasket. Fuel rail looks easy to take off.
Do the O-rings ever get brittle and leak...port FI there has to be vacuum at this point , no ?

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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 08:18 PM
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I don't know about RENIX accessory setup, maybe somebody else will answer
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bufbarnaby
Great idea...happen to have a LOT of 1/2 inch hose as I bought the wrong size a while back.
Have RTV too : )
TB gasket was cracked at the middle on the valve cover side. Though I could not get it to whistle , I got it to make a honking sound after I loosened the TB bolts.
No ride so I carefully put on a bead of RTV HI-TEMP and closed it up.
No noise so far and will do a better job with a gasket later.
Was wondering...rubber grommet where MAP sensor plastic vacuum line connects at base of TB is almost in same place.
Can that grommet be replaced ? Do they leak ?
TB not the source...Coming from #1 FI area...super-loud when heard with stethoscope with bell removed....just tubing near source...Anyone ever had this happen ?

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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ehall
3-foot section of 1/2" hose in your ear is good for localizing sharp noises.

If you hear it around the throttle body, replace the throttle body gasket with new dealer piece; the old ones get brittle and crack. Also remove the IAC and remove the IAC sub-housing from the throttle body. Clean it all up and replace that gasket with RTV.
It was the two front manifold bolts. So loose could turn with fingers.
Also , my Jeep has always run kinda hot and I suspect it has been running too lean with the leak.
On the way home from the gym it was like 25F cooler than usual !
Could that have fixed my hot-running engine issue also ???
NO MORE WHISTLE !
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Originally Posted by bufbarnaby
It was the two front manifold bolts. So loose could turn with fingers.
Also , my Jeep has always run kinda hot and I suspect it has been running too lean with the leak.
On the way home from the gym it was like 25F cooler than usual !
Could that have fixed my hot-running engine issue also ???
NO MORE WHISTLE !
absolutely, lean mix makes engine run hotter
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Originally Posted by bufbarnaby
It was the two front manifold bolts. So loose could turn with fingers.
Also , my Jeep has always run kinda hot and I suspect it has been running too lean with the leak.
On the way home from the gym it was like 25F cooler than usual !
Could that have fixed my hot-running engine issue also ???
NO MORE WHISTLE !
Good deal.
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