4.5 inch Long arm V Short arm
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From: Gilbert AZ/Las Cruces NM
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 upgraded
Ironman4x4fab long arms: $629 shipped
Rusty's offroad 4.5 coil springs: $150 shipped
Rusty's offroad 5"-6" shocks(need for long arm): $90 shipped
OE 95 chevy 1500 v8 2wd brake lines (28" lines): $30 a set at parts store
Claytons Long Arm Crossmember: $375 shipped
so with shipping your looking at $1300.
rusty's kit is $930 shipped for just the arms and crossmember
Rusty's offroad 4.5 coil springs: $150 shipped
Rusty's offroad 5"-6" shocks(need for long arm): $90 shipped
OE 95 chevy 1500 v8 2wd brake lines (28" lines): $30 a set at parts store
Claytons Long Arm Crossmember: $375 shipped
so with shipping your looking at $1300.
rusty's kit is $930 shipped for just the arms and crossmember
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From: Levittown P.A.
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L H/O
Rusty's long arm kit works great! And here is the quote from his page: We apologize for what we think is a high price - there is simply no way we can put this kind of quality at your door for less.
For $1000 you can have the crossmember, arms, shocks, and coils and brake lines. for a really nice and stout combination.
Altho... I run short arms. I just pushed my axle forward about 2 inches with adjustable upper and lower control arms and it made a night and day difference.... I have never riden in a long arm ride, but going from short-short arms to long-short arms gave me an extremely good ride
For $1000 you can have the crossmember, arms, shocks, and coils and brake lines. for a really nice and stout combination.
Altho... I run short arms. I just pushed my axle forward about 2 inches with adjustable upper and lower control arms and it made a night and day difference.... I have never riden in a long arm ride, but going from short-short arms to long-short arms gave me an extremely good ride
just read your other post...that seems like a good deal, but id rather have the blisten 5100s...ill have to save up, but i have no problems putting a decent amount of money into this thing. my gpop gave it to me for my 18th bday, and he passed away in march...so as long as i keep the job i have ill be building this thing for a while.
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From: Levittown P.A.
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L H/O
Ironman4x4fab long arms: $629 shipped
Rusty's offroad 4.5 coil springs: $150 shipped
Rusty's offroad 5"-6" shocks(need for long arm): $90 shipped
OE 95 chevy 1500 v8 2wd brake lines (28" lines): $30 a set at parts store
Claytons Long Arm Crossmember: $375 shipped
so with shipping your looking at $1300.
rusty's kit is $930 shipped for just the arms and crossmember
Rusty's offroad 4.5 coil springs: $150 shipped
Rusty's offroad 5"-6" shocks(need for long arm): $90 shipped
OE 95 chevy 1500 v8 2wd brake lines (28" lines): $30 a set at parts store
Claytons Long Arm Crossmember: $375 shipped
so with shipping your looking at $1300.
rusty's kit is $930 shipped for just the arms and crossmember
the crossmember doesnt wrap around the unibody like the rustys or RC does....
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From: Everett, WA
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
are you talking about the claytons crossmember? yes it gets welded on. I never trust a crossmember thats been bolted on. the holes like to wallow out.
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From: Gilbert AZ/Las Cruces NM
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 upgraded
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the only cross member better than claytons i think is RE's it even incorporates the pinch seam under the door jams. The whole thing is just absolutely massive!
but its also about 600 from the crossmember alone
the only cross member better than claytons i think is RE's it even incorporates the pinch seam under the door jams. The whole thing is just absolutely massive!
but its also about 600 from the crossmember alone
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From: Levittown P.A.
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L H/O
ok. i was just reading that welding onto the unibody tends to stress it out. the welds might not break, but the unibody around the welds might...but if it bolts to the factory holes, then welds on, its probably worth it. thanks for the help!
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From: West Deptford, NJ
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
unibody wont break as long as you set your heat correctly and weld in the right places
When you weld anything to a XJ frame you use lower heat.
Look at T&T Customs long arm and frame stiffeners. Though I haven't bought one yet. It looks like one of the best long arm kits I've seen.
1) http://tntcustoms.com/y-linkupgradexj.aspx
2) http://tntcustoms.com/uni-bodystiffeners.aspx
Those 2 links are of what I'm blabbin about.
I was considering the Rusty's long arm kit as well, but after seeing this one I think over all it's a better kit.
Look at T&T Customs long arm and frame stiffeners. Though I haven't bought one yet. It looks like one of the best long arm kits I've seen.
1) http://tntcustoms.com/y-linkupgradexj.aspx
2) http://tntcustoms.com/uni-bodystiffeners.aspx
Those 2 links are of what I'm blabbin about.
I was considering the Rusty's long arm kit as well, but after seeing this one I think over all it's a better kit.
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From: Richmond, VA
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I went drop brackets for my setup and im running about 6.5" of lift - plenty of flex (actually too much since shocks are too long) and running limiting straps
Long arms are just a pricey way to get on road comfort and rediculous flex :P
IMO - drop brackets
Long arms are just a pricey way to get on road comfort and rediculous flex :P
IMO - drop brackets
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From: Levittown P.A.
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L H/O
When you weld anything to a XJ frame you use lower heat.
Look at T&T Customs long arm and frame stiffeners. Though I haven't bought one yet. It looks like one of the best long arm kits I've seen.
1) http://tntcustoms.com/y-linkupgradexj.aspx
2) http://tntcustoms.com/uni-bodystiffeners.aspx
Those 2 links are of what I'm blabbin about.
I was considering the Rusty's long arm kit as well, but after seeing this one I think over all it's a better kit.
Look at T&T Customs long arm and frame stiffeners. Though I haven't bought one yet. It looks like one of the best long arm kits I've seen.
1) http://tntcustoms.com/y-linkupgradexj.aspx
2) http://tntcustoms.com/uni-bodystiffeners.aspx
Those 2 links are of what I'm blabbin about.
I was considering the Rusty's long arm kit as well, but after seeing this one I think over all it's a better kit.
With T&T customs, they call it the belly pan. That thing is just crazy beefy. And yes you can just get the belly pan. Cool folks too. I've been chatting with them to sort out my own ideas and future LA plans.
But shop around. The internet is at your finger tips. There are alot of things on the market these days.
Clayton, Rusty's, RE (thought I find these way over priced), T&T Customs, Treks. There's alot! I recently heard some not so great info on BDS long arm set. Mainly the quality of metal being used. Though they have a great rep.
And personally I just think Rough Country sux. But RC has the bets price.
Some of these "Bolt on" LA kits can always be welded on. Just make sure your okay with your height and whatnot.
But shop around. The internet is at your finger tips. There are alot of things on the market these days.
Clayton, Rusty's, RE (thought I find these way over priced), T&T Customs, Treks. There's alot! I recently heard some not so great info on BDS long arm set. Mainly the quality of metal being used. Though they have a great rep.
And personally I just think Rough Country sux. But RC has the bets price.
Some of these "Bolt on" LA kits can always be welded on. Just make sure your okay with your height and whatnot.
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From: Levittown P.A.
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L H/O
With T&T customs, they call it the belly pan. That thing is just crazy beefy. And yes you can just get the belly pan. Cool folks too. I've been chatting with them to sort out my own ideas and future LA plans.
But shop around. The internet is at your finger tips. There are alot of things on the market these days.
Clayton, Rusty's, RE (thought I find these way over priced), T&T Customs, Treks. There's alot! I recently heard some not so great info on BDS long arm set. Mainly the quality of metal being used. Though they have a great rep.
And personally I just think Rough Country sux. But RC has the bets price.
Some of these "Bolt on" LA kits can always be welded on. Just make sure your okay with your height and whatnot.
But shop around. The internet is at your finger tips. There are alot of things on the market these days.
Clayton, Rusty's, RE (thought I find these way over priced), T&T Customs, Treks. There's alot! I recently heard some not so great info on BDS long arm set. Mainly the quality of metal being used. Though they have a great rep.
And personally I just think Rough Country sux. But RC has the bets price.
Some of these "Bolt on" LA kits can always be welded on. Just make sure your okay with your height and whatnot.
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From: Indianola IOWA
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
one less upper bushing= more stress on the single
Id buy/ build (if i where you) a kit that has both uppers and take one out (pass side) for wheeling/flex
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From: West Deptford, NJ
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
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treks is made by t&t. both t&t and clayton make great radius arm kits


