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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 11:16 AM
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Yes it was very well secured.

As to the battery - just got a call and it tested as being good but in need of a charge.
Where you take it ?
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 11:23 AM
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You have another car same type connection if so see if issues are present with it connected....
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 12:31 PM
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What am I missing ???????? ( maybe I found the problem? )

Chased the positive cable and it looks like it runs to two place .....

#1 Battery -----> Fuse Block Input
#2 Battery -----> Starter Motor

Now I disconnected BOTH the Starter Motor and Fuse Block Input from the battery cable.

Positive Connector still reading short to ground ?????

The cable to the starter looks like it is routed down and under the Engine Mount.

It feels really tight in that area and may be pinched???


Does what I said above make any sense?????
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 12:32 PM
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Where you take it ?
I believe they took it to Advanced Auto ---

They are going to put it on a charger and retest.

Should no more soon
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KD3NE
What am I missing ???????? ( maybe I found the problem? )

Chased the positive cable and it looks like it runs to two place .....

#1 Battery -----> Fuse Block Input
#2 Battery -----> Starter Motor

Now I disconnected BOTH the Starter Motor and Fuse Block Input from the battery cable.

Positive Connector still reading short to ground ?????

The cable to the starter looks like it is routed down and under the Engine Mount.

It feels really tight in that area and may be pinched???


Does what I said above make any sense?????
Very possible cable shorted to mount from rubbing check for continuity between cable and block.
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by KD3NE
I believe they took it to Advanced Auto ---

They are going to put it on a charger and retest.

Should no more soon
Just remener that guy might of delivered your pizza last night. Make sure its load tested a couple of good hits b4 taking it home....Me id still get new from amount of melted lead on battery that's a no bueano...
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 12:42 PM
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Ya this.....
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by freegdr
Very possible cable shorted to mount from rubbing check for continuity between cable and block.
That's what I am saying/asking.

Disconnected from starter and fuse block still getting a short to vehicle ground.

I am using a FLUKE Digital Multimeter in it's " tone mode " ... short the two leads together and it goes BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP .... until you disconnect.
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 12:58 PM
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Cable to block bleeeeeep ?
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by freegdr
Cable to block bleeeeeep ?
Yeah!

I would like to see another 95 XJ to see how the cable is routed in the area of that motor mount.

This one seems tight inside the mount as if when he went off the road it move enough as did the cable and pinched it inside/under the mount.
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KD3NE
Yeah!

I would like to see another 95 XJ to see how the cable is routed in the area of that motor mount.

This one seems tight inside the mount as if when he went off the road it move enough as did the cable and pinched it inside/under the mount.
Buy new cable I think 3 feet works ....napa. Mine runs over mount not under.

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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by freegdr
Buy new cable I think 3 feet works ....napa. Mine runs over mount not under.
On my " to do " list for tomorrow.

Now on to the next problem ... different vehicle/different problem.

I'll tell ya, if I had $120K laying around I buy three brand new vehicles for the kids to run.

Used to have 4 of them here ..... 2 XJ's and 2 ZJ's.

Down to one of each due to wrecks .... that's life I guess.

The wrong ZJ got hit from behind!
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 04:28 PM
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Just looking at both of my 96s, the positive cable is mounted over the top of the motor mount and abd go down to the starter. Both are in that black plastic harness casing/looming junk, not a bad thing to help with wire chafing.
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Old Feb 5, 2014 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Xcessive
Just looking at both of my 96s, the positive cable is mounted over the top of the motor mount and abd go down to the starter. Both are in that black plastic harness casing/looming junk, not a bad thing to help with wire chafing.
When I redo this one, it will be done as yours is,

Cable in there is OEM so it being run the way it is probably done by the factory unless a previous owner removed it and reran it the way it is.

The plastic conduit is in the Jeep now, and it will be used when redone with new conduit, brackets and everything else I need to do the job.

I'l guarantee the new cable will not be able to do what the current one did.


I suspected all along a short to ground in the hot cable considering the meltdown and blowout of that positive terminal.


As to the using a test light and pulling the fuses one at a time, I decided why not just disconnect the fuse block and removed ALL the fused circuits at one time.

Did that and still had the short so I knew it had to be between the battery and starter. Disconnected the starter and still had the short to ground leaving only the cable as the culprit.

I'll try to get a pic of the old cable wrapped under the engine mount and post it for all to see and maybe someone can explain how it got there.
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Old Feb 5, 2014 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by KD3NE
When I redo this one, it will be done as yours is,

Cable in there is OEM so it being run the way it is probably done by the factory unless a previous owner removed it and reran it the way it is.

The plastic conduit is in the Jeep now, and it will be used when redone with new conduit, brackets and everything else I need to do the job.

I'l guarantee the new cable will not be able to do what the current one did.


I suspected all along a short to ground in the hot cable considering the meltdown and blowout of that positive terminal.


As to the using a test light and pulling the fuses one at a time, I decided why not just disconnect the fuse block and removed ALL the fused circuits at one time.

Did that and still had the short so I knew it had to be between the battery and starter. Disconnected the starter and still had the short to ground leaving only the cable as the culprit.

I'll try to get a pic of the old cable wrapped under the engine mount and post it for all to see and maybe someone can explain how it got there.
either motors been out or replaced that mount and it got pushed down and left....
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