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Old 09-14-2009, 01:56 PM
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I have a 93 XJ i bought in 1995 and ran the **** out of this thing with no problems. It sat for a year until now. When it ran it was very rough and a dealer jeep tech friend of mine said it was a head gasket. Easy enough, right? well long story short- I pulled the head & discovered there was no head gasket there to replace! gone! this thing ran good too!! the water jackets on the head were sealed up too. I am stunned. has anybody ever heard of 4.0 motors not using head gaskets???

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NOT in this life...lol...never heard of a motor except an old rolls royce that didnt need a head gasket...Strange...Tj
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Originally Posted by McGregor93XJ
hey guys-
I have a 93 XJ i bought in 1995 and ran the **** out of this thing with no problems. It sat for a year until now. When it ran it was very rough and a dealer jeep tech friend of mine said it was a head gasket. Easy enough, right? well long story short- I pulled the head & discovered there was no head gasket there to replace! gone! this thing ran good too!! the water jackets on the head were sealed up too. I am stunned. has anybody ever heard of 4.0 motors not using head gaskets???

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look closer its probably a coper gasket that is stuck to one side and just looks like its not there
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I finally got some time to post pics. There was no copper gasket. There was no gasket period. Note the water jackets on the head are sealed. Why? I wonder if it was for a reason. What will happen if I ream out those clogs and put a gasket on? In theory it should run like a champ right?!?
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i see the imprint of a fire ring on the block and head........either your missing it or your BS'ING. Period...........it just isnt gonna run without one.......
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sure looks like a head gasket stuck to that head son.
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Originally Posted by Willys55
sure looks like a head gasket stuck to that head son.
I see it too.
If you poke that water jacket hole I'll bet you "Find" the gasket.
It's just a very thin gasket thats all. stuck to the head.
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yep, looks like it's right there stuck to the head.
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Originally Posted by Willys55
sure looks like a head gasket stuck to that head son.
yep and you can see a terr in the gasket between the two cylinders at the left could be blown or it tor when you removed the head
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the water jackets are plugged by the gasket some have small holes it makes the coolant flow right
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Originally Posted by Donnie_K
yep, looks like it's right there stuck to the head.
X2. Its stuck on the head, not the block.
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I'm an idiot fellas. I read the threads and walked back out there with a razor & chip on my shoulder. there WAS a ridiculously thin gasket on it. My apologies.

But you guys helped solved my problem allright LOL!!!
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The most funniest thread ever?!
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Originally Posted by McGregor93XJ
I'm an idiot fellas. I read the threads and walked back out there with a razor & chip on my shoulder. there WAS a ridiculously thin gasket on it. My apologies.

But you guys helped solved my problem allright LOL!!!
Being able to run without a head gasket would be very rare, and very difficult (I won't say "impossible" - I've seen stranger!)

But we're talking about some damned close machining tolerances to make it work. I've certainly not run across any production engine that didn't have a head gasket...
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