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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 10:03 PM
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lol when i had one of my coopers patched i told the guy 25psi, and he told me that was way to low, i told him based on my tests that 25 was the proper pressure for the oversize tire and light weight xj. he insisted i was wrong even tho i knew very well that i wasnt. and then proceeded to air it up to 35. i lowered it right in front of him and drove off

also got my monstashades color chip samples today, thinking of monstalining the whole exterior since ive got some clear peeling

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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 11:19 PM
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Replaced the injectors today. Idle is much smoother, and can notice better throttle response.
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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 11:21 PM
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Whelp, after the new trackbar and bracket, still got DW.
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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 11:38 PM
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Been dragging my 33 around for a couple of years now.
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 03:05 AM
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bought today and read about how to .at 1am i decided to see if i could get the liner out and then be ready tomorrow to tackle the pumps. well i couldnt stop once the hard part was done. one connector was clean so i used it but cut the wires on the other and soldered them to the adapter that came with them.
fun to flip the switches and actually have them squirt right now!!
i also bought the blower relay and the turn signal blinker but now they are working ok?? i guess ill just put them in and not take chances.
got all stuff at autozone, looks ok.
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Like Basslicks said, they can't know the perfect PSI unless you want to pay a bunch of labor charge for them rolling the vehicle back and forth while they make adjustments.


But on the flip side, there's a lot of incompetent people at tire shops. My 37s were aired up to 45psi after I had them mounted and balanced
Absolute truth there. I'll never forget the last time I went to one of those oil-change outfits. The guy working top-side IGNORED the stop-sign sticker on the airbox of my s10



pulled it out and showed it to me and says, "Hey man, this thing is really dirty. It should be white, ya know? You need to replace it really bad."

I had a mild panic attack at the condition of my truck in the incompetent hands of the "technicians" there, yelled at him to put it back and get his hands off my truck, barked at the manager for incompetence, then went home and changed the oil again myself because I couldn't trust it was done right in the first place.

From then on, any vehicle I've ever had, if I can do it myself, I do it. If I can't, I look it up or try my best to figure it out. If I still can't, I take it to a reputable mechanic that I trust knows what he's talking about and doing and will take responsibility if he effs things up.

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Been dragging my 33 around for a couple of years now.
I hate you all... ALLLLLLLLL!!!!!
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 10:49 AM
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Well, apparently when I got the death wobble, it came back with a vengeance, not only was it the most severe case I've ever had but It cracked the frame in two locations. Great!
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
Well, apparently when I got the death wobble, it came back with a vengeance, not only was it the most severe case I've ever had but It cracked the frame in two locations. Great!
Looks like it's time to bust out the drill and welder.

What else have you replaced? Trac bar is not the ONLY source of DW.

Theres:
1) Worn out steering joints including the TRE on both ends of the drag link and tie rod
2) Control arm bushings
3) Incorrect caster angle caused by a need for longer LCAs or caster shims
4) Tires out of balance (front or rear, btw)
5) Loose steering gear box internals
6) Steering gear box not tight to the frame
7) Loose steering shaft - although this shouldn't necessarily CAUSE it, but if oscillation starts, slop in this area will allow it to worsen.
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 11:49 AM
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Nevermind
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Basslicks
Looks like it's time to bust out the drill and welder. What else have you replaced? Trac bar is not the ONLY source of DW. Theres: 1) Worn out steering joints including the TRE on both ends of the drag link and tie rod 2) Control arm bushings 3) Incorrect caster angle caused by a need for longer LCAs or caster shims 4) Tires out of balance (front or rear, btw) 5) Loose steering gear box internals 6) Steering gear box not tight to the frame 7) Loose steering shaft - although this shouldn't necessarily CAUSE it, but if oscillation starts, slop in this area will allow it to worsen.
Ball joints new (Spicer), wheel hubs new (Timkin), steering box new (A1 Cardon Crap alread has sector shaft loose/leaking), trackbar/bracket new (RC), control arm bushings new, steering linkage off JY ZJ.

I'm gonna plate the frame, balencer tires (never had this done ever), and fix the castor (3" lift using stock control arms), and finnally replace the steering box with a S10 4x4 box. Then I'll go from there, other than that the only thing I can think that it may be is the ZJ linkage I got is bad.

And as for the cracked frame, what do u mean drill? Lol. Is there a trick I don't know about, I was just gonna plate it with flat bar.
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
And as for the cracked frame, what do u mean drill? Lol. Is there a truck I don't know about, I was just gonna plate it with flat bar.
Drill a small hole at the end of the crack so it stops expanding, then get to work fixing it
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Drill a small hole at the end of the crack so it stops expanding, then get to work fixing it
interesting and makes sense. Thanks, I'll do that!
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Nevermind
lol.. did I beat ya to it?

Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
Ball joints new (Spicer), wheel hubs new (Timkin), steering box new (A1 Cardon Crap alread has sector shaft loose/leaking), trackbar/bracket new (RC), control arm bushings new, steering linkage off JY ZJ.

I'm gonna plate the frame, balencer tires (never had this done ever), and fix the castor (3" lift using stock control arms), and finnally replace the steering box with a S10 4x4 box. Then I'll go from there, other than that the only thing I can think that it may be is the ZJ linkage I got is bad.

And as for the cracked frame, what do u mean drill? Lol. Is there a trick I don't know about, I was just gonna plate it with flat bar.
My money is on that ZJ linkage. Honestly man, just get a new drag link, tie rod and TREs. They're not that expensive, and anything you encounter used is more than likely going to be worn out. Tires never being balanced certainly doesn't help. If you've not done at least a driveway alignment, that could be a cause and longer LCAs will also help (comical, yet effective video below explaining that)

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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Basslicks
My money is on that ZJ linkage. Honestly man, just get a new drag link, tie rod and TREs. They're not that expensive, and anything you encounter used is more than likely going to be worn out. Tires never being balanced certainly doesn't help. If you've not done at least a driveway alignment, that could be a cause and longer LCAs will also help (comical, yet effective video below explaining that)

Thanks. I'm thinking it's the ZJ linkage too. I'm just gonna order new moog linkage all together and balance the tires. Then hopefully get some adjustable control arms down the line.
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
Thanks. I'm thinking it's the ZJ linkage too. I'm just gonna order new moog linkage all together and balance the tires. Then hopefully get some adjustable control arms down the line.
I second the ZJ linkage. As for the castor, I don't think that's your problem. It's possible it could be contributing to the problem, but factory control arms won't be the sole cause of DW at 3" of lift.

That said, I recommend adjustable arms anyway so you can get it perfect.
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