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Old 02-13-2018, 08:17 PM   #46
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You may not know this yet, but us oldtimers can tell you this for a fact. If you don't make plans and start working towards them now the next thing you know you will turn around and realize you are too old to get it done. Time passes much much faster than you think, and life can throw you a permanent curve at anytime and you can get stuck there.
lol... either that, or once you finally figure it out, you'll be so far into the place you're currently at, you can't afford to start back at the bottom.

Again.... wish I would've told my dad (as good intentioned as he was) that I didn't care what he thought, I wanted to be a mechanic and that's what I was gonna do no matter what.
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lol... either that, or once you finally figure it out, you'll be so far into the place you're currently at, you can't afford to start back at the bottom.

Again.... wish I would've told my dad (as good intentioned as he was) that I didn't care what he thought, I wanted to be a mechanic and that's what I was gonna do no matter what.
Yeah I pretty much did the same thing. But instead of working for others I got off my butt and started hustling my own business at 18 and have built on that since. But it comes with risks and heartaches of course, But I would not have what I have if I hadn't went and grabbed the bull by the horns and held on.
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lol... either that, or once you finally figure it out, you'll be so far into the place you're currently at, you can't afford to start back at the bottom.

Again.... wish I would've told my dad (as good intentioned as he was) that I didn't care what he thought, I wanted to be a mechanic and that's what I was gonna do no matter what.
My best friend’s mom wouldn’t let him go to trade school. He wanted to take up welding and fabrication. His mom looked down on the trades for whatever reason. She wanted him to go to a 4 year traditional college (Penn State). He ended up going, not really knowing what he wanted to major in because he was coerced into it. Ended up majoring in business for some 3 year degree.

Now he mows lawns and picks weeds for a living. Nothing wrong with that, but it’s so far from where he wanted to be. Still has college debt too (not sure how much, he still talks about making payments from time to time) and he is in his early thirties. He is marrying me sister-in-law (my wife’s sister) and is becoming the step father of two tweens. No going back now, unless he really wants to uproot his life financially. Which with the his “new” family isn’t really possible at this point.

I always thought it is worse to go to college with no game plan then not going at all. You just waste four years of your life playing high school 2.0, take on massive amount of debt, and leave with no real marketable skills.

That being said, my wife’s cousin is a senior at Penn State and is majoring in Chemical Engineering. He is going places, already has a job landed through his internship. Which is why college isnt for everyone and all degrees are not created equal.

The problem I witnessed when I was in high school was the teachers telling you that you can do anything. Which is true. But they fail to teach that fact that you might not make jack crap doing it. It’s nice to do something you like, but when the rent check is due and your coming up short, that sucks.



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Very true, man. The honest truth is, there's nothing wrong with following your dreams as long as you are not disillusioned to the fact that you might struggle financially, might just get by, or could even be very successful in doing it. I think a lot of parents from our generation stressed the "you need to go to college" and "you need to find something that will make you a lot of money" ideals.

Not really there fault though, being a parent now I know that they were only wanting the best. They didn't want to see their kid struggle the way they did. The way I see it though, it's easier to succeed doing something you like... because if you like doing it, you'll put more effort into it, and have more chance of being successful.

TRUE financial success comes from learning how to budget, save, and manage money.... doesn't matter if you make 10 grand a year or 100 grand a year.. if you don't have those 3 principles nailed down, you can still end up BROKE by the time you're retirement age.
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Very true, man. The honest truth is, there's nothing wrong with following your dreams as long as you are not disillusioned to the fact that you might struggle financially, might just get by, or could even be very successful in doing it. I think a lot of parents from our generation stressed the "you need to go to college" and "you need to find something that will make you a lot of money" ideals.

Not really there fault though, being a parent now I know that they were only wanting the best. They didn't want to see their kid struggle the way they did. The way I see it though, it's easier to succeed doing something you like... because if you like doing it, you'll put more effort into it, and have more chance of being successful.

TRUE financial success comes from learning how to budget, save, and manage money.... doesn't matter if you make 10 grand a year or 100 grand a year.. if you don't have those 3 principles nailed down, you can still end up BROKE by the time you're retirement age.
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Very true, man. The honest truth is, there's nothing wrong with following your dreams as long as you are not disillusioned to the fact that you might struggle financially, might just get by, or could even be very successful in doing it. I think a lot of parents from our generation stressed the "you need to go to college" and "you need to find something that will make you a lot of money" ideals.

Not really there fault though, being a parent now I know that they were only wanting the best. They didn't want to see their kid struggle the way they did. The way I see it though, it's easier to succeed doing something you like... because if you like doing it, you'll put more effort into it, and have more chance of being successful.

TRUE financial success comes from learning how to budget, save, and manage money.... doesn't matter if you make 10 grand a year or 100 grand a year.. if you don't have those 3 principles nailed down, you can still end up BROKE by the time you're retirement age.
There is a fourth and most important one in this. Don't fall for all the brainwashing of consumerism. Don't be one of those who are camping all night in front of a store like the rest of the sheep just to buy an Iphone. If you really NEED one they will make more and the price will come down. But real "needs" and "wants" are two different things.
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As far as I can tell, learning to handle your money properly is the most important thing. I was forced to retire early for health reasons and had no cash reserves. I live on SS and a small part time job. It's hard to live on such a limited income, especially with a Jeep as your only vehicle! At one point my wife and I made almost $60K and didn't save a dime! Bad choice!
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There is a fourth and most important one in this. Don't fall for all the brainwashing of consumerism. Don't be one of those who are camping all night in front of a store like the rest of the sheep just to buy an Iphone. If you really NEED one they will make more and the price will come down. But real "needs" and "wants" are two different things.
Yup! That too! I've been perfectly happy with my used cell phones, used computers, used cars, etc. Does some of the newest stuff coming on to the market look great and perform great? Absolutely! Do I need it? No. If I can afford it one day, maybe I'll pick up something brand new.... but I really doubt I'll ever care enough to take the depreciation hit lol
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Yup! That too! I've been perfectly happy with my used cell phones, used computers, used cars, etc. Does some of the newest stuff coming on to the market look great and perform great? Absolutely! Do I need it? No. If I can afford it one day, maybe I'll pick up something brand new.... but I really doubt I'll ever care enough to take the depreciation hit lol
It's the only way to build net worth. There is no law that says you just have to spend your whole paycheck to the penny every week. It's OK if you have some left over to accrue. We have been brainwashed into thinking we just have to spend it when we get it even if it is on something we really don't need.
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That's called consumerism and it's the holy grail of capitalism. Companies don't make money unless they sell their products, so they make stuff that will sell. Get the masses hooked on your product and you make a huge profit.

Auto makers are the worst ones for this. Tell me one car that sold well that didn't get larger and more complex over time. One that I remember vividly was the Pontiac GTO. It started on the mid-sized Tempest platform and wound up as big as a Cadillac!
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Agree on both points.

Except the car thing.... 3 cars... Chevy Nova and Dodge Daytona went to economy POS cars... and the Ford Mustang line ended, picked back up with the smaller Mustang 2 and well... may look bigger on the outside, but is still just as small as the mustang ii on the inside.
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Agree on both points.

Except the car thing.... 3 cars... Chevy Nova and Dodge Daytona went to economy POS cars... and the Ford Mustang line ended, picked back up with the smaller Mustang 2 and well... may look bigger on the outside, but is still just as small as the mustang ii on the inside.
That was because of a fake gas shortage...
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Oh I know what it was for lol.... and really just playing devil's advocate, but still.

OH... the Malibu and Dodge Dart followed suit with as well - although the Dart much later than the malibu obviously. Technically the Dart and Nova continued in the same category though... I mean the Dart and Nova were not SUPPOSED to be muscle cars. They were economy cars that had performance options (much like todays Dart).... and then there's the Malibu.... which changed tracks completely just like the Dodge Daytona.

To paraphrase the Beach Boys.... "I wish they all could be muscle cars"
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