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Old 02-17-2017, 03:14 AM
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Living in NY is not an easy place to own a handgun, even through it would be great to. However, long guns are pretty much okay as long are they are not ARs. I now own a Remmington 870 with 3 barrels and a Ruger .44 carbine. I've owned the Ruger since 1963 when it was first made and it is a hard hitting weapon at close range, but it is light and kicks like a mule. The last time I fired it, it about broke my shoulder. I'm 72 and not strong enough to recover from injuries as quickly as I used to.

My question is this; I was offered to swap it for a .30 Carbine and not having fired it before, is the recoil light enough to come back to point of aim quicker than the .44? They say it's comparable to the .357 round but with the weight of the rifle makes it smoother. What are your thoughts?
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Man, I wish I could weigh-in on this but I've unfortunately not had the opportunity to get my hands on an M1. I've got a 30-30 lever gun but that's a whole different animal vs the .30 cal M1
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The 30 carbine to me does not kick nearly as hard as a 30-30 or your .44 carbine. I dont own one but have shot a few and they arent bad at all in my opinion. It felt more like a .270 ish kick to me.
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It's not much more than a .22, really.

But if a .44 in a carbine is giving you that much trouble... I suggest you try before you buy. Better yet, find a competent instructor. You've got to be doing the basics pretty wrong for a .44 carbine to hurt you that much.

But if it really does... Well, Ruger 10-22s are endlessly customizable. Bullpup stocks, sights, larger magazines, on and on and on. You could do a lot worse.

A hit (or 12) with a .22 is a lot more effective than a miss with a .44.

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This is NOT a 10-22 nor anything like it. This was the first rifle produced by Ruger in 1963 in .44 Remington Magnum, serial #6737. I used to like it a lot, but lately it's kicking my butt! It has a 4-round tubular magazine similar to the Remy 870. With open iron sights it will drill a quarter at 75 yards, benchrest.
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This is NOT a 10-22 nor anything like it. This was the first rifle produced by Ruger in 1963 in .44 Remington Magnum, serial #6737. I used to like it a lot, but lately it's kicking my butt! It has a 4-round tubular magazine similar to the Remy 870. With open iron sights it will drill a quarter at 75 yards, benchrest.
Awesome rifle. Used to know a nice gal who collected vintage Ruger rifles, and hunted with them. Before her plane crashed she'd shot more NA game than anyone I've heard of.
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Originally Posted by dave1123 View Post
This is NOT a 10-22 nor anything like it. This was the first rifle produced by Ruger in 1963 in .44 Remington Magnum, serial #6737. I used to like it a lot, but lately it's kicking my butt! It has a 4-round tubular magazine similar to the Remy 870. With open iron sights it will drill a quarter at 75 yards, benchrest.
Have you considered a heavy recoil pad? They work wonders. When I was a kid I would shoot my uncles .303 all the time with a recoil pad.
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I suggest that since the ruger is such a nice gun and seems a fairly valuable one at that. an old m1 just doesnt seem like a fair trade to me.
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This was a graduation present from a friend of my dad's in 1963. My dad was reluctant to let me have it until my Navy enlistment was over, so never told me it was mine until then. Supposedly, some famous guy took it to Africa, (Not mine!) to test for Ruger and dropped a water buffalo dead in it's tracks with a head shot at 25 yards while it was charging! Awesome test! Big gonads if you ask me!

The main reason I'm thinking of swapping it for a 30 carbine besides the recoil factor is my forearm length has changed so now I can't get the whole first pad of my finger on the trigger which makes firing it harder because of the trigger pull. I thought about shortening the stock and adding a recoil pad, but why cobble up a classic weapon and destroy it's resale value.

The last time I had it at the range, I didn't bed it properly and I think I damaged my rotator cuff. It took several weeks to stop hurting. My Remy 870 Wingmaster seems to be okay to shoot.

Looking at websites, it's worth between $600 to $700 in it's present condition and a .30 Carbine is around the same. When my uncle came back from Korea, he told me everybody he knew went out and bought one! He also said to stay away from the Chinese copies! The only problem he said was that (his words) it took several rounds to stop a gook!

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This was a graduation present from a friend of my dad's in 1963. My dad was reluctant to let me have it until my Navy enlistment was over, so never told me it was mine until then. Supposedly, some famous guy took it to Africa, (Not mine!) to test for Ruger and dropped a water buffalo dead in it's tracks with a head shot at 25 yards while it was charging! Awesome test! Big gonads if you ask me!

The main reason I'm thinking of swapping it for a 30 carbine besides the recoil factor is my forearm length has changed so now I can't get the whole first pad of my finger on the trigger which makes firing it harder because of the trigger pull. I thought about shortening the stock and adding a recoil pad, but why cobble up a classic weapon and destroy it's resale value.

The last time I had it at the range, I didn't bed it properly and I think I damaged my rotator cuff. It took several weeks to stop hurting. My Remy 870 Wingmaster seems to be okay to shoot.

Looking at websites, it's worth between $600 to $700 in it's present condition and a .30 Carbine is around the same. When my uncle came back from Korea, he told me everybody he knew went out and bought one! He also said to stay away from the Chinese copies! The only problem he said was that (his words) it took several rounds to stop a gook!
If it were mine, and I could swing it, I would keep that gun and go find a m1 cheap. Around here they go all day for $300. And you wouldnt have to cut anything for a recoil pad, they just slip on the butt stock.
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I have a local gunsmith that I deal with regularly and my intention is to talk to him about buying an M1 outright, then asking if he'd be interested in buying or trading my .44. He has a range out back so I could shoot the carbine before buying it and let him shoot my .44 likewise. I have about 75 rounds for it as well. I use jacketed softpoints because ball ammo penetrates without expanding very much and hollowpoints explode on impact.

Depending on his price, I may just keep the .44. I bought my son a Henry .22 which he loves, but I had him try the Remy and all he could say was "Holy ****!" I may keep the .44 for him for later years.
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I have a inland m1 carbine, kicks about as much as say a 9mm carbine which is not much.
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Originally Posted by dave1123 View Post
I have a local gunsmith that I deal with regularly and my intention is to talk to him about buying an M1 outright, then asking if he'd be interested in buying or trading my .44. He has a range out back so I could shoot the carbine before buying it and let him shoot my .44 likewise. I have about 75 rounds for it as well. I use jacketed softpoints because ball ammo penetrates without expanding very much and hollowpoints explode on impact.

Depending on his price, I may just keep the .44. I bought my son a Henry .22 which he loves, but I had him try the Remy and all he could say was "Holy ****!" I may keep the .44 for him for later years.
I would keep it if you could Dave, I understand the health and recoil issue but being able to pass it down to your son seems like a better story than trading it for another gun.
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I think you're right, Cliffy. You talked me right into it, but it didn't take much. I was looking online at some pristine WWII issue guns that were around $1500 that had been thru the import customs checks from South Korea. They were all Inland, Saginaw S G, IBM, and Rockola. I don't care if it's been thru the mud, as long as it's serviceable and safe to shoot. I could afford about $500 at the most.
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If you have a relationship with that gunsmith, he should be able to help you find something that is more comfortable for you and your budget.
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