XJ 4.5" + lifts, and driveline angles..
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Do yall think an 1 inch TC Drop Kit would be enough for and extra 2 inches of lift added to the rear end. In all the lift will be around 6.5" front and back...
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Some food for thought: aftermarket lift motor mounts do the same at tcase drop. So if you know you will replace them, which you will eventually cause they suck, could just get those and save $20 on the drop in the long run
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Some food for thought: aftermarket lift motor mounts do the same at tcase drop. So if you know you will replace them, which you will eventually cause they suck, could just get those and save $20 on the drop in the long run
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The sye isn't just for offroading. It'll save your driveline and u joints.
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Hack and Tap is a less expensive and kind of an easier install. The added strength from an SYE kit usually comes from the larger diameter main shaft like in the Advance Adapters kit. When I say larger diameter they increased the size of the smallest part of the shaft were the speedo gear goes.
The point of a drop is the attempt to keep u-joints at the same angle (many post around the internet) so that the angular velocity remains the same at both ends of your driveshaft, and thus does not vibrate or add stress to the joints.
A CV (constant velocity) does this by its double cardan (2 u-joints) being linked by a very short distance cancels out the changes in joint velocity that cause vibration. The U-joint end by the axle pinion needs to be close to parallel with the differential pinion
In short a drop kit works fine if you make sure that the angles of both your transfer case and axle pinion are parallel. SYE's and CV drive-shafts are used were this is not practical, or desired.
Check out this link it has some nice diagrams
http://jeep.zerok.ru/files/XJ1984-19...talignment.pdf
By the way increasing your lift with spacers or blocks isn't going to eliminate your rubbing issue. You might not rub on flat ground, but the point is your tires are bigger than your stock fender wells. If your on the trails and you articulate your suspension you risk damaging your tires. I have an RE 5.5" without trimmed fenders and I rub at full lock in reverse, but on the trails I have jammed my tires into the wells not being careful.
The point of a drop is the attempt to keep u-joints at the same angle (many post around the internet) so that the angular velocity remains the same at both ends of your driveshaft, and thus does not vibrate or add stress to the joints.
A CV (constant velocity) does this by its double cardan (2 u-joints) being linked by a very short distance cancels out the changes in joint velocity that cause vibration. The U-joint end by the axle pinion needs to be close to parallel with the differential pinion
In short a drop kit works fine if you make sure that the angles of both your transfer case and axle pinion are parallel. SYE's and CV drive-shafts are used were this is not practical, or desired.
Check out this link it has some nice diagrams
http://jeep.zerok.ru/files/XJ1984-19...talignment.pdf
By the way increasing your lift with spacers or blocks isn't going to eliminate your rubbing issue. You might not rub on flat ground, but the point is your tires are bigger than your stock fender wells. If your on the trails and you articulate your suspension you risk damaging your tires. I have an RE 5.5" without trimmed fenders and I rub at full lock in reverse, but on the trails I have jammed my tires into the wells not being careful.
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Hack and Tap is a less expensive and kind of an easier install. The added strength from an SYE kit usually comes from the larger diameter main shaft like in the Advance Adapters kit. When I say larger diameter they increased the size of the smallest part of the shaft were the speedo gear goes.
The point of a drop is the attempt to keep u-joints at the same angle (many post around the internet) so that the angular velocity remains the same at both ends of your driveshaft, and thus does not vibrate or add stress to the joints.
A CV (constant velocity) does this by its double cardan (2 u-joints) being linked by a very short distance cancels out the changes in joint velocity that cause vibration. The U-joint end by the axle pinion needs to be close to parallel with the differential pinion
In short a drop kit works fine if you make sure that the angles of both your transfer case and axle pinion are parallel. SYE's and CV drive-shafts are used were this is not practical, or desired.
Check out this link it has some nice diagrams
http://jeep.zerok.ru/files/XJ1984-19...talignment.pdf
By the way increasing your lift with spacers or blocks isn't going to eliminate your rubbing issue. You might not rub on flat ground, but the point is your tires are bigger than your stock fender wells. If your on the trails and you articulate your suspension you risk damaging your tires. I have an RE 5.5" without trimmed fenders and I rub at full lock in reverse, but on the trails I have jammed my tires into the wells not being careful.
The point of a drop is the attempt to keep u-joints at the same angle (many post around the internet) so that the angular velocity remains the same at both ends of your driveshaft, and thus does not vibrate or add stress to the joints.
A CV (constant velocity) does this by its double cardan (2 u-joints) being linked by a very short distance cancels out the changes in joint velocity that cause vibration. The U-joint end by the axle pinion needs to be close to parallel with the differential pinion
In short a drop kit works fine if you make sure that the angles of both your transfer case and axle pinion are parallel. SYE's and CV drive-shafts are used were this is not practical, or desired.
Check out this link it has some nice diagrams
http://jeep.zerok.ru/files/XJ1984-19...talignment.pdf
By the way increasing your lift with spacers or blocks isn't going to eliminate your rubbing issue. You might not rub on flat ground, but the point is your tires are bigger than your stock fender wells. If your on the trails and you articulate your suspension you risk damaging your tires. I have an RE 5.5" without trimmed fenders and I rub at full lock in reverse, but on the trails I have jammed my tires into the wells not being careful.
Im thinking of doing RE SYE kit and a normal front drive shaft to complete the kit...
Then once ive done that i will add the little bit of extra lift...
What kind of tires/wheels are you running, and is yours the complete longarm RE kit... Im just curious, its hard to find anyone on here that have 4.5" + lifts made by Rubicon Express...
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I wouldn't say a Hack-N-Tap is the same strength as a complete kit. It is just as strong as the stock shaft bc that's what it uses. I have a complete kit from Advanced Adapters. Check out their website for some comparisons.
I run an RE 5.5" Long-Arm with 33x12.5" Mickey Thompson MTZs
I run an RE 5.5" Long-Arm with 33x12.5" Mickey Thompson MTZs
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