Where did the Cowl Intakes go?
Im not sure about everyone else, but it seems like in the last month or so, you cannot find/buy an XJ cowl intake. Spectre and THOR intakes seemed to have stopped listing their cowls for some odd reason. Also there is nothing to be found on the 3rd party websites like Quadratec and 4WheelParts. Only the safari snorkels seem to be purchasable. Can anyone explain this? Or direct my blind eyes to where I can purchase a cowl intake? Thanks CF
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I would email spectre and ask whats up,Thor is a small company they might have went under or the guy gave up.
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I have been in contact with Spectre/K&N, They said they were going to have stock again until October, I just ordered one from CARID website, someone told me they had them in stock, they said they had them in stock, then I got a notice that said;
Upon processing your order, our manufacturing facility has informed us that the following item(s) are backordered with a new Estimated Ship Date as shown below: New Estimated Ship Date: Nov 2nd, 2015 Reason: Manufacturing Delay (Build to order part) |
Do this: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/my...-67919/index5/ Its Cheaper and works just as good, plus, there is a settling chamber(your airbox) for any water that may enter through the cowl and it is not crossing the engine.
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No Thanks WyoCherokee, For one it has more of a chance sucking water in since that side of the cowl is open (the other side is not so that space has to fill up first), second I rather cross the motor in a smooth tube (which has been proven with infrared to catch nominal heat IF ANY) than use a corrugated tube that will disturb the air flow, as well as I have no interest in using the stock airbox which by no means is waterproof (neither at the top or the drain holes at the bottom) - I want either Spectre (1st choice) or the THOR setup (2nd Choice) or a Snorkel before I would choose that DIY system.
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Originally Posted by WyoCherokee
Do this: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/my...-67919/index5/ Its Cheaper and works just as good, plus, there is a settling chamber(your airbox) for any water that may enter through the cowl and it is not crossing the engine.
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Doesn't matter which one you put under that hood, unless your hood is majorly vented, its gonna get hot. Both of those homebrew designs have been field tested and used for years without negative effects. Dukie has been running his PVC one for over 5years now.
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Lol, stock box not waterproof. Omg people are funny. My homebrew cowl intake on driver side been on several years now with cheap sperre tubing shoved into air box.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...cadb988f59.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...023c46c25a.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...257b041e03.jpg Hood deep through some muddy water. With hood vents, not a drop in the air box. To each his own if you don't want to run a home brew method, but don't try to bring down a field tested proven method. I'd rather my homebrew design over overpriced marketing any day IMHO |
I ran Dukie's set up for 3 years now, I went into water 32" deep and nothing got into the stock air box.
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Well here in the swamp lands of Florida, we see a lot of long stretches of deep water in a lot of places in the woods.
And OK, maybe if you take your time sealing the original air inlet and drain holes in a stock airbox it will stay water tight..... But running your Air intake to the Driver side cowl will have your engine sucking air directly where the water will be pouring in (not good in my opinion), Maybe it works for you, but I am not seeing it working for me. But I do agree it is better than no improvements at all..... But all that does not matter anyways FOR ME, I need to get rid of my stock airbox to make room to move my battery to the drivers side, so I can install my YORK air compressor on the other side...... |
Originally Posted by bryweb
(Post 3150754)
Well here in the swamp lands of Florida, we see a lot of long stretches of deep water in a lot of places in the woods.
And OK, maybe if you take your time sealing the original air inlet and drain holes in a stock airbox it will stay water tight..... But running your Air intake to the Driver side cowl will have your engine sucking air directly where the water will be pouring in (not good in my opinion), Maybe it works for you, but I am not seeing it working for me. But I do agree it is better than no improvements at all..... But all that does not matter anyways FOR ME, I need to get rid of my stock airbox to make room to move my battery to the drivers side, so I can install my YORK air compressor on the other side...... |
OP, honestly although they are ugly, a snorkel may be better option for you. I understand your views about long swamps. Yea, I did seal the factory inlet hole and screws on the bottom of the box. Top I did nothing. I feel not having the air box leaves the engine more vulnerable if the cowl snorkel does suck water up. Just curious, what are your views on snorkles
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I have the Spectre,,and all I have to say is the Dukie Intake way will work just as good as my shiny over priced ****. And yes I got it cause it was shiny and looked cool plus I didnt want to make one, I was lazy..
Now Im not going to say the Spec made me a submarine or its the best(the filters suck), but it has saved my butt a few times when the front of the jeep went into water too deep and I had to push water a little. plus I need it for some water crossing I have to up here in AK. But the Dukie Intake can and will do just as good if done right.. I went cowl cause I dont like the look of the snorkel, but Meh to each his own. This thread here is talking about making your own Spectre or something like it. Some have been looking real good.. https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/co...intake-213300/ |
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On amazon. 3-5 weeks
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Does this work at all .... ???
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Ordered the spectre off a site called Carid yesterday. Got an email today saying its on backorder and likely won't ship till Nov 20th.
Of course they told me that after they charged my card.... |
Originally Posted by LittleRed94
(Post 3154533)
Ordered the spectre off a site called Carid yesterday. Got an email today saying its on backorder and likely won't ship till Nov 20th.
Of course they told me that after they charged my card.... Upon processing your order, our manufacturing facility has informed us that the following item(s) are backordered with a new Estimated Ship Date as shown below: I was pissed.New Estimated Ship Date: Nov 2nd, 2015 Reason: Manufacturing Delay (Build to order part) PS: Sending you a PM |
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Originally Posted by 4cyturbowrx
(Post 3151150)
Does this work at all .... ???
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I'm just hoping it actually shows up and we don't get another email pushing it back further
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Originally Posted by Waynerd
(Post 3151138)
On amazon. 3-5 weeks
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Tip for the future, do not buy anything off of CarID they are terrible with customer service and do not update their website. I've learned that the hardway..
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they have started producing the filters again so maybe they'll start running the intake line again soon??? i heard somewhere they were bought out by K&N....that's heresay tho so i dunno
took me 3 months to get the filter |
Originally Posted by Whiplash
(Post 3156177)
they have started producing the filters again so maybe they'll start running the intake line again soon??? i heard somewhere they were bought out by K&N....that's heresay tho so i dunno
took me 3 months to get the filter |
Originally Posted by extrashaky
(Post 3154715)
That's the 1987-90 version that takes air from the wrong side. Most of us need the version that takes air from the passenger side, where the cowl is covered.
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Originally Posted by bryweb
My recent emails sent to Spectre were replied and signed from K&N Engineering, just not sure how long K&N has owned them, I know my emails back in April came back signed from SpectrePerformance, but the ones in July came back signed K&N.
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id like to bump this question again to see if anyone has found a vendor selling cowl intakes for the XJ. (Particularly late XJs) As of March 8th 2016, I still cannot find THOR or Spectre selling theirs, and CarID still advertises a Spectre intake, but just lists it as out of stock once you try to purchase it.:hang:
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There aren't any all in one kits. You can build one using spectre parts and silicone coupling.
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I can't help but feel this has to do with the big bust in China's economy, stock market, currency value against the dollar. All of this came along about the same time frame when this came to light. I could be full of it but I follow the business markets and the small ones in China were impacted hard.
It was right after this that stocks of these on dealers shelves here in the US became depleted and all were being marked as back ordered. Then never came back into stock for anyone. |
Originally Posted by Fred/N0AZZ
(Post 3223995)
I can't help but feel this has to do with the big bust in China's economy, stock market, currency value against the dollar. All of this came along about the same time frame when this came to light. I could be full of it but I follow the business markets and the small ones in China were impacted hard.
It was right after this that stocks of these on dealers shelves here in the US became depleted and all were being marked as back ordered. Then never came back into stock for anyone. |
AdamK and I emailed spectre last summer and got a response from a K&N Engineer.
They were purchased by K&N and will no longer be supporting the 4.0L Cowl Intake |
Originally Posted by Desertfox1023
(Post 3224004)
AdamK and I emailed spectre last summer and got a response from a K&N Engineer.
They were purchased by K&N and will no longer be supporting the 4.0L Cowl Intake Send your complaint emails to: Tech@SpectrePerformance.com |
Originally Posted by bryweb
(Post 3224129)
Maybe if enough people complain, they will consider coming out with it again
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Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
(Post 3224139)
If you think there is that much demand for it why not gear up and produce it yourself?
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The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step.
Lao Tzu |
Originally Posted by bryweb
(Post 3224129)
Desertfox is correct, they are no longer going to offer the Cowl Intake, and instead came out with a water sucking Cold Air Performance Intake - Maybe if enough people complain, they will consider coming out with it again
Send your complaint emails to: Tech@SpectrePerformance.com They must have thought it cut into their market share enough to do a buyout then discontinue the product to push their own product. Happens everyday any more to a lot of different products. Turbo XJ is correct a small business is hard to setup production for a single product that has enough markup to pay the bills in a small market like for an XJ unless you have access to penny's an hr. labor. |
Good Info in this thread also: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/wh...intake-222658/
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I just wanted to revive this thread I had created 2 years ago, to let you all know the cowl induction kit has returned. I got in touch with Mike at THOR (Trail Head Off Road) about 8 months ago. He told me that sales went down and he stopped listing the product. I was happy to help him market his new rendition, (marketing is my background) and so from there we worked together to develop a 3rd generation kit for 91-01 XJs. It is a one piece construction, and you may have seen the install on BleepinJeeps Channel. I will be creating a writeup for the newly available cowl induction kit and have a code for you guys to use to get a free item too. This has gone from a 1 to a 2 man operation, so please be understanding in the distribution process. www.tinyurl.com/XJCowl
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I'll probably be picking one of these up sometime. Something about cowl induction just tickles my fancy.
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I just got my THOR intake kit from them off Facebook. Install was easy, and the quality of the system is great. Sounds awesome too!!
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