What lift do I have so I can buy the correct leaf springs for it?

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Apr 24, 2022 | 03:55 PM
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This is how she sat with 31 inch mud tires on stock 15 inch rims.

When I had those tires, they kept rubbing the fender liner and kept catching on the sway bar as well.

Some people i’ve asked say this is about 2 inches of lift, and others have said near 3 inches.

I do know there are pucks on the front coil springs, and for the rear it looks like someone put longer shackles on the rear.

Reason i’m asking this is because my bushings are shot on my leaf springs and the rear sways pretty bad sometimes if you kick it hard enough. My leaf spring is also completely flat as well, and I want to get leaf springs that are correct to make sure this thing doesn’t look retarded driving down the road.

Let me know if y’all need more pictures

I should also note the guy I bought it from didn’t know what size lift it had
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Apr 24, 2022 | 04:42 PM
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The best way to tell is to measure the distance between the frame rails and the axles and compare it to values you can find online...
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Apr 24, 2022 | 06:49 PM
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So, is lift measured from the lowest part of the frame rail to the ground?
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Apr 24, 2022 | 07:31 PM
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This is one way the find out
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Apr 25, 2022 | 08:26 PM
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Dude your Cherokee is Soso nice!
Take care of her please!
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Jun 20, 2022 | 10:06 AM
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So, based off of stock measurements, the front is lifted at 3 inches, and the rear is lifted at 2.5 inches. I’m guessing the lift in the rear used to be 3 inches, because my leaf springs are flat as a board.

So, looks like I need either a 2.5 or 3 inch lift kit, depending on what kind of coin I want to spend.

I also want the full coil springs in the front, not some sort of puck because of how tight the springs are. Tighter springs translate into less dampening, so it’s more rough on the road than springs that have more travel
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Jun 20, 2022 | 10:11 AM
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What about this kit? I’m only asking because it seems cheaper than most
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Jun 20, 2022 | 11:32 AM
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Buy quality, cry once
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Jun 20, 2022 | 11:40 AM
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Zone is a reputable brand for the most part. Sister company to BDS who has a strong reputation. However 3" lift coils from a lot of brands are ~240lb spring rate, including Zone. Factory coils are ~150lb. Spacers/pucks do not make a difference in ride except where they change the geometry or angle of the factory suspension.

If ride is a concern you are better off going bigger and compensate for the change in geometry with long arms or CADs. This is debatable of course since ride quality is subjective. You will see people state "that's just how a lifted jeep drives/handles..." but this is very untrue. You can achieve equal or better if designed and built right for your application.

My experiences, my opinions.

Best of luck.
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Jun 20, 2022 | 12:59 PM
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Not sure I understand your spring I used stacked spring isolaters to fine tune ride height ride did not chsnge.
id go with Rock krawler springs personaly
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Jun 20, 2022 | 02:33 PM
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I agree with buying the best quality lift kit you can afford. I went with Old Man Emu and do not regret it. Their springs are reported to provide the best ride characteristics where some cheaper kits are often reported to have poor ride quality. On the rear you are best served by obtaining lift via the springs and not extended shackle. Extended shackles tend to upset suspension geometry and that can result in unpredictable handling and poor ride. Also consider your need for increased ride height. The higher you go the more problems you will encounter. You might find that my build thread has some useful info on suspension replacement. https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f46/19...thread-256001/

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Jun 20, 2022 | 09:36 PM
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So i’m having a dilemma.

Few things:

I can’t afford an Old Man Emu kit. The kit I found is a 3 inch lift kit, and it’s near 1.2k. I really want an Old Man Emu kit, but 3 inches is a little much for me.

My second thought is that I don’t need an expensive kit, I just need a refresh, while keeping the clearance to clear the WJ tires I have on my Jeep. I just like the look of it being taller than factory, and I just like it in general.

My third thought is that if I bought that kit from Zone Off-road, how much different is it going to be in ride quality vs the Old Man Emu kit? The ride quality sucks on my Jeep, and I attribute that to lower drop shackles and flat leaf springs, with old shocks and coil springs.

I’m partially debating on reverting to factory lift, but then that would mean I would have to change my tires back to stock 15 inch rims.

I just don’t want to cheap out here, but at the same time, I don’t have that much coin to spend on a good kit that’s only going to see the pavement for the rest of its life.
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Jun 20, 2022 | 11:41 PM
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If you want to keep those rims, but considering factory height, you can always get smaller tires to compensate. to stop the rubbing on your control arm, consider a 1" spacer. I ran spacers for a long time because the rims I had were 5 on 5" instead of the factory pattern of 5 on 4.5". I wheeled on it like that and had absolutely no issues. Just an option you may not have considered. Cheers!
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Jun 21, 2022 | 03:30 AM
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Why not just get what you absolutely need instead of a whole new kit? Piece meal it over time, spread the cost out, get higher quality components and peace of mind knowing it's done right.

Just get rear leafs for now.
https://www.morris4x4center.com/leaf...EaAhl8EALw_wcB

RE leafs are known for their ride quality and longevity, I have the 4.5" lift leafs in the back, been running them for several years, zero sag, great flex, worth every penny.

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Jun 21, 2022 | 05:34 AM
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Quote: If you want to keep those rims, but considering factory height, you can always get smaller tires to compensate. to stop the rubbing on your control arm, consider a 1" spacer. I ran spacers for a long time because the rims I had were 5 on 5" instead of the factory pattern of 5 on 4.5". I wheeled on it like that and had absolutely no issues. Just an option you may not have considered. Cheers!
I misspoke.

I had 31 inch mud ties on stock 15 inch rims, and those were rubbing in the front at both steering locks. When my transmission gave out, I sought out after different rims/tires, and I found a set from a WJ, which were smaller. I did get 1 inch spacers all the way around, because the bolt pattern for the WJ rims are 5x5, and the the XJ bolt pattern is 5x4.5.

Anyway, to the other guy that responded, I think I’ll just get the rear leafs and stock shackles. That’s what I need most right now, and then i’ll focus on getting shocks and coil springs. I want to keep my lift small so I don’t have to worry about driveline angles, steering angles and messed up camber.

The lift that currently is on it is actually 100 percent in spec. I’ve done like 4 alignments to this thing after replacing most of the front end, and every time it was all in the red and I managed to get camber, caster, and toe almost dead on by just adjusting toe. And that’s exactly what I want without messing with anything else
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