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Old 08-18-2013, 08:19 AM
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I have a 98 xj and I have a serious case of death wobble. When I get up to speeds from 50 to 60 I feel like my truck is going to switch lanes by itself . When I get to 60 it smooths out. I've done alot of research on the possibilities and this isn't the first time I've delt with this. I'm wondering what you guys think and if you can give me any pointers, much appreciated in advance
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right here with you bud. i hit a bump at 60 and i feel like my front wheels are gunna come off. scary ****.
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I have a 98 xj and I have a serious case of death wobble. When I get up to speeds from 50 to 60 I feel like my truck is going to switch lanes by itself . When I get to 60 it smooths out. I've done alot of research on the possibilities and this isn't the first time I've delt with this. I'm wondering what you guys think and if you can give me any pointers, much appreciated in advance
You feel like it's going to change lanes?

I've never heard of it described that way. Are you sure you have Death Wobble? Does it shake violently until you slow down? Or is it just pulling really hard?

What's the toe set at? Castor?

Have you checked all tie rod ends, bushings, ball joints?

How's the steering box?

How's the track bar?

What have you checked?
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Have you lifted the jeep at all?
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Track bar
Drag link
Tie rod
Wheel bearings
Ball joints
Steering box & bolts
Tre at pitman arm
Worn tires? Not balanced?
control arm bushings & bolts
Get alignment at a shop that can handle lifted vehicles
Dont throw steering stabilizers at it
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Could even be as simple as out of balance tires. I have had death wobble in a handful of cherokees, and sometimes just getting the tires balanced has fixed it, sometimes an alignment fixes it, sometimes its worn out parts( hubs, tie rods, bushings, or bolts), and sometimes the steering box is moving from loose bolts or a cracked frame. Check EVERYTHING, have a friend turn the steering wheel back and forth and see if everything is tight, and move on down the list from there. I almost rolled a Cherokee after I hit a bump on the interstate going downhill in the middle of a slight turn at 75mph and the death wobble was enough to make me switch lanes from right to left and back again onto the shoulder on two wheels.

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My track bar bracket was loose causing my death wobble.
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borrow/try another set of tires and go from there.
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Thank you for all the responses here's an update to what's already been checked I have a complete new front end ball joints are good tie rods the same. Brand new RC adjustable track bar with drop bracket, brand new RC drop pitman arm, brand new RC steering stabilizer, brand new Durango box with jcr offroad spacer, newer wrangler duratracs, new RC LCAs, new front u joints, and I may have missed a few things but that's why this is so weird why I still have death wobble
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Originally Posted by steven72192
Thank you for all the responses here's an update to what's already been checked I have a complete new front end ball joints are good tie rods the same. Brand new RC adjustable track bar with drop bracket, brand new RC drop pitman arm, brand new RC steering stabilizer, brand new Durango box with jcr offroad spacer, newer wrangler duratracs, new RC LCAs, new front u joints, and I may have missed a few things but that's why this is so weird why I still have death wobble
What's your castor angle set at? How much lift?
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Im going to say castor.

If it feels like its darting left or right on your castor is suspect.
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I'm at about a 6 in lift on 33's, caster isn't adjustable on an xj....
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I'm at about a 6 in lift on 33's, caster isn't adjustable on an xj....
Get adjustable control arms.
Your problems castor.

Camber is what's not adjustable..unless you get adj ball joints.

6 inches on short arms is horrendous anyways
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What is the ideal caster for 6"? 5.5* - 6ish?
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If hes at 6" of lift on short arms his wheelbase has been shortened considerably. His arms are at horribly steep angles. Not good. IMO the factory y steering setup is unacceptable once your past 4" ish... i would really look into OTK crossover steering and going long arm. If that's not in your budget i totally understand. Might not be the "cool" thing to do but i think you'd be happier on the road if you dropped it a couple inches...


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