Interesting, so is USA the way to go on the cheap for most quality. Is a warranty something to be concerned with ring/pinions? Only time I have seen a fail is offroad and I do not see any warranty covering teeth sheared off.

N20jeep, is that a shop or your house? I have access to a trailer and that might not be a terrible idea.

 

it will be done at the shop.

 

They are less than 5 miles from me, I can pickup almost anything within an hour of calling it in.

 

Yes, warranty should be way up on your priority list. I had 6 teeth fall off my Yukon 4.88's in my rig. Yukon's warranty is 1 year, my gears were 3 months out of warranty.

Got a fellow member of MilitaryJeepers that had the same thing happen to his D30 4.88's....also screwed on the warranty.

 

This is why I took your suggestion and went with superior gears. I would have gone thru serious off road but the price was about $100 more and I gotta save anyway I can to afford lift gears and tires

 

this is amazing wish I lived near you

 

Just need to find a Dana 44 housing and send to you to install shafts, R&P and e-locker

 

I'd agree with this. I did the exact same thing and also had em installed for $200 front and rear. Hit up craigslist and try and find a mobile mechanic. They obviously operate on their own, making their prices negotiable

 

Warranty on gears is pretty much USELESS after 500-1000 miles.

I can virtually promise you that if your pulling off teeth on a ring gear that no matter who you buy them from or what name is on the box that you will be denied any warranty claim after about 5-10 months of use. No matter what name is on the box.

At least with Yukon, or Motive gear you will not get a Chinese made low quality gear set. With alloyusa and superior, your highly likely to get a low quality gear set and pay prime $ for it.

I offer you up this way to check! And please ANYONE and EVERYONE here who reads this, try it. Look on your ring gear. If it looks dull and almost black in color (thats a oxide coating to hide imperfections), and typically has what looks to be a hand engraved part number on it (much cheaper method for marking), you just got something Other then the typical quality S Korean manufactured gear set you will find in a Yukon or Motive box!

Now if your gear set looks to me fully machined without being mostly black in its entirety, and it has a circle around the letter K in the part number area, then you have what most would consider the higher quality and typically better made gears out of yep you guessed it S Korea.

Good thing alloyusa or superior put in writing some form of longer warranty period. Even though like I said above, if you pull teeth off the ring gear then its going to be considered overloading of the gear set by over powering what that axle/gears was made to handle or over sized tires making the load much higher then designed for, for your sized axle.

Get a quality produced gear set and you wont need a warranty. You will NEED a quality install though, and the installer should be the highest concern on your list. If someone just doesnt do a setup right, not only can/will you get noise, but if to shallow it can pull teeth off, overheat, burn up pinion bearings, etc....

As for someone here saying they had a Yukon D30 gear set fail in a 4.88. I kinda question that it was a actual Yukon set. Yukon has Not had a D30r-488r gear set sold out of their inv, in over 2.5 years. and even before that they only had a few batches.

In any case, I have NEVER had to ask Yukon for a warranty return on a gear set. If I had to guess (just say going 2 years back) I have sold over 1000 gear sets in this time. And even with USA Standard being about 99% S Korean, I have only had to ask for 2 warranty RGA on theirs even. I sell aprox $20,000 a month out of Yukon/USA standard warehouses and in that say 2 year time, I have had less then a dozen total RGA needs for anything warranty.

Oh I also need to confirm something.

Does anyone other then Yukon have a full quality control facility with over a million dollars of testing equipment, that has their name on a gear set box?

Does anyone other then Yukon, do any quality control testing here state side after it leaves a manufacturing plant, that has their name on a gear set box? Or how about ANY QC testing of the parts they sell?

Does anyone other then Yukon have a full quality control facility that test a sample from every lot, that is received, & if that sample doesn't pass then more are tested and if failed, they get returned or another gear company buys their subpar quantity and re-boxes, that has their name on a gear set box?

You prolly get the idea here. Yukon is the ONLY gear boxing company that even has proprietary rights at factory's that produce gears Only for them. Everyone else just buys what ever there is typically.

My experience (over a decade and not just of selling part or surfing the web) has proven to me that Yukon is the best non OE boxed gears out there (and about 5-10% of their boxed sets are OE sets in their box). Motive Gears are also a high quality company, that cares about putting only quality gears in their boxes. And that USA standard are typically the same gears in the box as motive boxes, from the same importer, but at a good savings.

 

whoa...so, you dont always get what you pay for it seems.

 

Well you are getting some ultra long term warranty, lol...

I have installed my fair share of Chinese made gears, and every time I open a box of gears (no matter what name is on the box) I look to see. But even the Chinese can setup good and easy. But more times then not, it doesnt.

Dont get me wrong though. I would buy chinese manufactured if they were less $. A gear set now a days is a Gear set! But as an installer I would rather pay less, for a gear set that is manufactured the same or better, that sets up easier and has a better contact pattern. And pay no mind to the warranty.

 

5 year warranty>1 Year Warranty or 6 Month Warranty

I have to chuckle at your "China" comments. Flip it around and the same arguement can be made about the junk coming out of Mexico, India, Maylasia (SP?), Etc.

As far as Quality Control is concerned, you pose a question that infers than no one else besides Yukon does. You can infer all you like but that doesn't make it a fact.

A better warranty is a value-added feature for many customers. Saying it's worthless after X amount of miles is just silly.

 

It is a fact, cause it is a fact...

Show me ONE other gear boxing company that has a QC facility that does any state side testing!?

Everyone just accepts what comes to the states, and re-boxes them in their box and lets the customer be the QC facility!

You think Alloyusa has a QC facility? Ha.. right. Not even Motive gear or superior does any QC before putting them in their box. They rely on the factory to do all the QC. And allowing a factory in China to do QC is not saying much, when they export to the USA and will never hear from the end user.

AGAIN, show me! I can SHOW YOU the Yukon QC facility!

 

I have first had experience with Yukon quality in my own rid. 6 teeth missing off the ring gear after just over a year.

I've got another customer with the same problem on front HP30, teeth came off the ring gear after just over 1 year. Yukon said too bad, the warranty is expired.

Got Another local wheeler that bought a Grizzly Locker (from you)....failed to function properly the first time it was driven.

So just because Yukon has a stateside QA department does not mean that bad parts never it the shelf.

If you're happy with Yukon, good for you.
If you think a longer warranty isn't important....ask someone that had to spring for a new set of gears, install kit, the installation labor cost, and the vehicle down time as well. I'm sure they will disagree.

FWIW,
I've installed a lot of gears and the only ones I've seen fail are Yukon and Genuine/G2.