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mach3lude 09-07-2015 11:10 PM

Questions about Serious Off Road kit install
 
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i just bought the serious off road 4.5 long arm kit. im still getting pieces in but have a couple questions i cant seem to find on google.

first question is these are the shims and new pins i got, are these the correct part number that i needed for the kit because those pins dont fit in the shims, or do i need to drill the holes in the shims bigger, and exactly how am i suppose to put the shims in?

second are these brackets or whatever they are called for the leaf springs. should i put those in? because anything i've found on the web ppl havent put them in, and which way are they suppose to go in?

93_xjcherokee 09-08-2015 01:18 AM

Those "brackets" are called shackles and yes. If they came with the kit you should run them. Or I would anyways

chipmaker 09-08-2015 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by mach3lude (Post 3138846)
i just bought the serious off road 4.5 long arm kit. im still getting pieces in but have a couple questions i cant seem to find on google.

first question is these are the shims and new pins i got, are these the correct part number that i needed for the kit because those pins dont fit in the shims, or do i need to drill the holes in the shims bigger, and exactly how am i suppose to put the shims in?

second are these brackets or whatever they are called for the leaf springs. should i put those in? because anything i've found on the web ppl havent put them in, and which way are they suppose to go in?

On those shims you have to drill them to fit the pin bolt. Clamp the springs together using C-clamps remove the old bolt, drill the shim to fit over the threaded part (not the head) of the new longer bolts then install the new bolts and remove c-clamps.

Are you running an SYE? This determines if you need to run shims or not.

Those brackets are indeed leaf spring shackles. If you don't install them you will not get 4.5" lift.

Nothing personal, but if you don't know what a shackle is, you probably need to do a little more research before installing your lift. These things aren't just bolt on and go.

Search the forums for help and research materials, and always feel free to ask if you get stuck or need any input.

Welcome to the world of long armed Jeeps. Good luck with your lift:headbang:

HS00XJ 09-08-2015 05:54 AM

[QUOTE=mach3lude;3138846]i just bought the serious off road 4.5 long arm kit. im still getting pieces in but have a couple questions i cant seem to find on google.

How about contacting Frank at serious off road ?

andrewmp6 09-08-2015 06:12 AM

Yeah talk to frank if you have any real problems he will take care of them.

sycoglitch 09-08-2015 06:18 AM

Wait, so we can contact the company we buy stuff from with questions? When did this happen

Rogue4x4 09-08-2015 07:05 AM

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Those are the RE boomerang shackles. They do indeed need to be installed. The angled portion faces the rear.

Like this
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SteveMongr 09-08-2015 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by sycoglitch (Post 3138899)
Wait, so we can contact the company we buy stuff from with questions? When did this happen

Yea, I have gained a lot of helpful knowledge from many of the manufacturers tech departments and supplier techs, like Iron Rock. When I built my jeep, I did not know about all the forums, I picked up the phone.

Fred/N0AZZ 09-08-2015 10:19 AM

X2 Yes a quick phone call while your working on it can help a lot when working on a unknown I have done that a lot with vendors Rustys, Quadratec, etc.


Does seem strange to get a kit where you need to start off by drilling larger holes in the kit to assemble.

mach3lude 09-08-2015 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by chipmaker (Post 3138892)
On those shims you have to drill them to fit the pin bolt. Clamp the springs together using C-clamps remove the old bolt, drill the shim to fit over the threaded part (not the head) of the new longer bolts then install the new bolts and remove c-clamps.

Are you running an SYE? This determines if you need to run shims or not.

Those brackets are indeed leaf spring shackles. If you don't install them you will not get 4.5" lift.

Nothing personal, but if you don't know what a shackle is, you probably need to do a little more research before installing your lift. These things aren't just bolt on and go.

Search the forums for help and research materials, and always feel free to ask if you get stuck or need any input.

Welcome to the world of long armed Jeeps. Good luck with your lift:headbang:


yes im running a sye, i already got that part of it installed. i have talked to frank a couple times and hes been helpful, just didnt want to have to bother him again over labor day weekend. i've been getting parts in from the kit pretty much each day and some of the stuff from rubicon express isnt labeled or says what they are for, sorry just hard to tell whats what when you get a bunch of random stuff coming in.

ive done research but still dont know all the terms, sorry first xj and first lift, ive done lowered hondas for the last 12 years, im very mechanicly but this is definitly new to me.

mach3lude 09-08-2015 04:17 PM

also thanks for the info on the shims, i thought i was looking at something wrong or got the wrong pins, like you guys said seems odd that first thing u need to do is drill holes in them to make them fit when your ordering a kit

chipmaker 09-08-2015 07:31 PM

It's all good dude! It's quite a learning curve when you come into the XJ world. Im a recovering minitrucker so I smell what ya steppin in. You got a serious LA kit and a SYE. You sir are well on the path to XJ righteousness. They just take some getting used to.

93_xjcherokee 09-09-2015 12:48 AM

Once a minitrucker always a minitrucker. I been there done that.

SeriousOffroad 09-09-2015 06:37 AM

The threads don't fit the shims?

Yes you have to install the new shackles. Without them your back end will set lower than the front and you won't have proper articulation either.

You got my number, call me.

scbrooks87 09-09-2015 01:05 PM

I haven't had any dealings with Serious Offroad (YET!) but I knew Frank would chime in eventually when he saw a thread about his kit.


Just a suggestion for the shims - When I bought new shims and bolts for my XJ, the bolts were also too big for the shims. Turns out they were also too big for the hole in the leaf spring. You can get almost exactly the same bolt at Home Depot for pretty cheap, but in whatever diameter you need. That's what I did, and it saved me from having to drill shims or springs.


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