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On Off throttle grinding....bad...
I'd like to start by saying I've searched quite a bit. I bought this jeep about 2 months ago. I've been going through it replacing stuff and one thing I replaced was the tranny mount. After I put it in I'm now getting a grinding and jerk when feathering the throttle above 35 mph. I put new u-joints on the rear and still the same. I also put anti seize on the slip yoke and no help. When going over 60 it sounds like a chainsaw is cutting away at the drivetrain!
I'm going to do a sye and put in a front ds in the rear but I don't have time or the parts and I'm going on a 200 mile trip next Sunday for Easter.
Will I be safe driving it?
Is it the stock slip yoke making the horrible noise? I noticed a little bit of play in it.
Bonus question - Will a stock front drive shaft fit in the rear with a 4"+- lift without having to shorten it? What's the lowest lift you can have before having to shorten?
96 4.0ho auto np231 d30 c8.25 d lockers front and rear. was told a 4" lift
I also changed the rear diff fluid to like 140-85 and put in new fluid in the t-case. If that makes a difference.
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I'm going to do a sye and put in a front ds in the rear but I don't have time or the parts and I'm going on a 200 mile trip next Sunday for Easter.
Will I be safe driving it?
Is it the stock slip yoke making the horrible noise? I noticed a little bit of play in it.
Bonus question - Will a stock front drive shaft fit in the rear with a 4"+- lift without having to shorten it? What's the lowest lift you can have before having to shorten?
96 4.0ho auto np231 d30 c8.25 d lockers front and rear. was told a 4" lift
I also changed the rear diff fluid to like 140-85 and put in new fluid in the t-case. If that makes a difference.
Thanks
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Try removing front DS and see if that does it. You should be good at 4" and a front DS setup. Anything over the 3-3.5" height seems to start needing a little help. Also consider axle shims, 3* would be enough.
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I'm new to lifted vehicles so I've still got alot to learn. I just read up on the shims. The shim (fat side to the front) angle's the front of the rear end up to re-leave some of the angle in the drive line correct? Where can I get these shims? Off road place I assume.
Do you think I'm safe driving it next weekend with the bad grinding or should I shim it before I go?
Thanks for the help!
Do you think I'm safe driving it next weekend with the bad grinding or should I shim it before I go?
Thanks for the help!
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I went outside and looked and a 2-3 degree shim would make the rear diff and drive shaft be in a straight line. Is the goal of shimming to make the only angle in the drive line at the slip yoke?
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How are the engine mounts?
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As far as I can tell there good. How good I don't know. If I had a jack big enough I would have changed them out. Any good way to tell if there bad? I cant move the motor by hand.
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Look at them. Is there rubber missing? Is the center bolt in the middle of the mount or below?
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I looked at the exhaust but couldn't find anywhere it could be hitting other than at the very rear its about an inch from the leaf spring mounting point. It sounds way worse then the exhaust banging against something.
Along with the noise I can feel a jerk in the drive line. When going from R to D there is a bang underneath. I figured it was the u-joints but it wasn't.
Thanks and I'll add some aftermarket motor mounts to the HUGE list of stuff to do...
Along with the noise I can feel a jerk in the drive line. When going from R to D there is a bang underneath. I figured it was the u-joints but it wasn't.
Thanks and I'll add some aftermarket motor mounts to the HUGE list of stuff to do...
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I looked at the exhaust but couldn't find anywhere it could be hitting other than at the very rear its about an inch from the leaf spring mounting point. It sounds way worse then the exhaust banging against something.
Along with the noise I can feel a jerk in the drive line. When going from R to D there is a bang underneath. I figured it was the u-joints but it wasn't.
Thanks and I'll add some aftermarket motor mounts to the HUGE list of stuff to do...
Along with the noise I can feel a jerk in the drive line. When going from R to D there is a bang underneath. I figured it was the u-joints but it wasn't.
Thanks and I'll add some aftermarket motor mounts to the HUGE list of stuff to do...
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God I hope not. I'm going to try and shim the rear like VTJeep suggested and see if less angle helps. Read alot about bad vibes without a sye.
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