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Old 01-09-2019, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by arto_wa View Post
I don't think 3 inch lift in XJ will improve snow driving traction!

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No but they do allow you to fit meatier tires for getting through the mud and much on the oil fields (the other concern the OP had)

But like I said, a slight trim of the fenders or some fancy flares will give him that room as well. The XJ is plenty capable with a good set of tires, but then that doesn't replace the worn out components the OP mentioned either so...
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:32 PM
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Very helpful discussion, OP thanks for asking the questions I was wondering as well. Still learning here as well... this thread motivated me to learn what the heck an SYE is, ha ha. Have recently picked up some 235/75R15 tires, which are not installed yet. As a result of this discussion, and digging a little, I am wondering how to tell if your rear leafs are on their way out...?
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Old 01-09-2019, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PajeroXJ View Post
Very helpful discussion, OP thanks for asking the questions I was wondering as well. Still learning here as well... this thread motivated me to learn what the heck an SYE is, ha ha. Have recently picked up some 235/75R15 tires, which are not installed yet. As a result of this discussion, and digging a little, I am wondering how to tell if your rear leafs are on their way out...?
The picture is to small to really tell however, the general consensus is that if your leafs are close to flat (pushing the rear shackle reward) they're on their way out and if they're flat or bent upward (inverted) they're shot.
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Old 01-09-2019, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Joshua White View Post
The picture is to small to really tell however, the general consensus is that if your leafs are close to flat (pushing the rear shackle reward) they're on their way out and if they're flat or bent upward (inverted) they're shot.
Thanks, I was afraid of that. Here's a better pic from the other side.

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Old 01-09-2019, 04:15 PM
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I'll pm you as to not thread jack, but yep I'd say it's time to look for replacements.
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I'm confused...
Dont be confused. That is built to float on top of the snow. Put that on an icy street and it would go straight into the ditch. 24 years driving in Alaska taught me that a narrow snow tire has much better ground pressure for street traction and winter driving.
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Originally Posted by Suprmn View Post
Dont be confused. That is built to float on top of the snow. Put that on an icy street and it would go straight into the ditch. 24 years driving in Alaska taught me that a narrow snow tire has much better ground pressure for street traction and winter driving.
Gotcha so they have good traction in snow, thanks for clearing that up :-)
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Suprmn View Post
Dont be confused. That is built to float on top of the snow. Put that on an icy street and it would go straight into the ditch. 24 years driving in Alaska taught me that a narrow snow tire has much better ground pressure for street traction and winter driving.
For real though I get what you're saying, sound advice.
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Originally Posted by Joshua White View Post
Depending on the lift - new lower arms, better shocks, better rear springs, better shock mounts.

Either way, it doesn't matter which is "better" it matters what works for the situation. I would never invest in building out the factory upcountry package when I could get a lift that replaces all major components, or invest more money and completely upgrade the suspension design across the board, but that's me.
I dont know if you have actually seen the quakity differrnces between lift kit components and oen replacements, but i have seen them side by side and the oem stuff is beefier. Better shocks? You replace your shocks when you do the upscountry and can get jk takeoffs that fit right in for less then $100 that are 5 tines better then what comes in a kit.

You literally replace the same things when you "build out an upcountry" compared to getting a kit, just with better parts.

If you want to freshen up stock components and add a mild lift, i would rather do the upcountry.

But thats just me.
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Originally Posted by Martlor13 View Post
I dont know if you have actually seen the quakity differrnces between lift kit components and oen replacements, but i have seen them side by side and the oem stuff is beefier. Better shocks? You replace your shocks when you do the upscountry and can get jk takeoffs that fit right in for less then $100 that are 5 tines better then what comes in a kit.
It depends on what brand lift you are comparing it to. If its Rough Country then yes oem is probably better, but if it is a quality brand lift like Rubicon Express, BDS, Zone, and a few others the shocks and springs are just as good or better than oem.
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Originally Posted by Martlor13 View Post
I dont know if you have actually seen the quakity differrnces between lift kit components and oen replacements, but i have seen them side by side and the oem stuff is beefier. Better shocks? You replace your shocks when you do the upscountry and can get jk takeoffs that fit right in for less then $100 that are 5 tines better then what comes in a kit.

You literally replace the same things when you "build out an upcountry" compared to getting a kit, just with better parts.

If you want to freshen up stock components and add a mild lift, i would rather do the upcountry.

But thats just me.
Well I've seen my factory components next to after market ones and I'd say even the basic lower arms from any lift kit are much "beefier" than stock across the board.

This is just a difference of opinion, I have mine and you have yours, that's not changing.
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It depends on what brand lift you are comparing it to. If its Rough Country then yes oem is probably better, but if it is a quality brand lift like Rubicon Express, BDS, Zone, and a few others the shocks and springs are just as good or better than oem.
Of course, but those are intermediate/higher end kits. I was referencing the others when he said you can get a kit for the same price as building the upcountry replica
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Originally Posted by Joshua White View Post
Well I've seen my factory components next to after market ones and I'd say even the basic lower arms from any lift kit are much "beefier" than stock across the board.

This is just a difference of opinion, I have mine and you have yours, that's not changing.
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