Looking for a lift kit. Educated info appreciated
 

1. Rubicon express 4.5 inch
2.fab tech 4 inch
3.currie 4.5 inch
4.tomken ultra flex 4.5 Inch.
These are the kita if come across in my price range and height. Does anyone have experience with them?

I have the Rubicon Express 3.5" springs, got about 5" out of them. Just know going this high will include more work than just the "Kit" you'll need a SYE and a CV drive shaft to replace the current rear setup. At that height Id recommend long or mid arms to smoothen out the ride. Whats your overall goal with your rig? What size of tires are you going. Basically why do you want to go 4.5"?

From what i have read i see alot of people choosing smaller lifts then going bigger Id like to get something that will satisfy me for a while height wise. Same goes for tires changing lift usally makes you want bigger tires.
Overall goal is to have something that will keep up and is safe for my family to be in.

Atmos why full traction i see they go from 3.5 to 6.

The 3.5 inch kit in that link will let you run bigger tires without changing much else for now. Long arms are the way to go if you can, better ride day to day. Plus if you did that with 31x10.50x15 tires on stock rims you can get ridiculously flexed and do a lot offroad without dropping big money on other mods.

Zone all the way. Been using their 4 1/2" all spring system on mine. SYE kit too. Been on there for 3 years with no real sag. Been selling and installing them for 8 years.

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http://zoneoffroad.com/display?ma=6&yr=1997&mo=9&ca=78

All spring.
http://zoneoffroad.com/zone-offroad-...erokee/j23-j24

it's a 4 link and a great kit for fairly cheap in comparison to most other quality kits. I would add a 1" lift shackle and a 1" coil spacer in the front to net 4.5"

you also get the option of going to some nice biltseins instead of crap white bodies. I'd weld up some plates to the stock cross member and go out wheel a guy with a 5.5" IRO kit :w00t:





just kidding

Like I said I got 5" out of my 3.5" springs(hoping theyll sag a lil) Im on 31s with mid arms and it flexes for days, and once I get my steering done it should drive down the road with one finger on the wheel. I will be going bigger tires once I go to tons, but I dont plan on lifting it anymore, actually want it lower.
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Just remember at 4.5 inches your gonna need a sye and longer brake lines so budget that stuff in also.And if you have the stock steering a cheap upgrade is the zj v8 tie rod ends.

Some kits include brake line drop brackets and a transfer case drop if you're on a budget.

Love my Currie RockJock 4.5" lift...nice smooth ride and clears 33's with a little trimming and 35's with proper bump stops.

Boosted what did you have to buy that didnt come with.

Extended brake hoses.... The instructions say to relocate the mounting bracket but I chose to buy new braided hoses instead. The rear leafs are pre-shimmed to change the pinion angle and although I have a spare t-case with SYE, I haven't had to install it. No vibrations whatsoever.

I know it doesn't sound like much an 1 1/2" but going from a 3" lift to a 4 1/2" using my original springs and other things installed with the 3" items used again cost me about $3100 more. My next step to long arms and the extras I want with them is another to come.


I started with a basic lift with quality springs known for a better ride and no sag of the leafs with time and heavy loads considered. The other thing was where the springs were made 98% of all the lift kits use cheap springs from China and other places. Very few offer American made springs but Rustys Off Road does and after 4 yrs can vouch for the springs.


95% of the time those kits offering you a bunch of different parts tend to be not of the best quality, even in their own line. Your best bet is to pick the best parts from different companies and not buy a large kit. Just a basic one like the Rustys 3" full leaf/coil package $438 I think, you will have a good base kit to build on if you want more lift to 4 1/2".

Thanks fellas this is harder then i thought.

You ask 20 people personal opinions on lifts, and you'll get 40 answers. Some good, some bad. All different.

We can all agree on one thing I think, is there isn't a single vendor that offers all the best items in a lift kit, its a mix and match deal. If you do but a large kit there will be a bunch of item you wish were different after you have it a while.


That was one of the main things I found out here after lurking for 5 months and watching the posts from the mods and ones who had been around for a long time. In fact I enjoyed it was like yrs ago when I started learning about what I needed to do to make my drag car run in the top 5 and what parts were needed. Then the biggest problem was money for the quality parts as it is with anything.


For just an comparison when I buy aluminum heads for my engines, I always buy them bare then have them ported and flowed, springs from one vendor, titanium retainers from another same for roller rockers, push rods, stud girdles, etc. Its the same for the lift for an XJ its the sum of all the parts.


Good luck with your search or I should say research.

Fred does have a point,A lot of us do mix and match lift parts to get the best of everything we want.On the big things like springs and the control arms do your home work on each brand before buying.On the springs one brands can be soft one can be harder and some lift more then hey say.On the control arms some brands the bushings wear out fast others last longer.

Good info guys i think im just going to build a kit. now i just need to make a list of all the parts needed.

i can build a 4 inch kit minus the long arms so i can focus on getting good parts and add the long arms later right?

You're absolutely right, however if you look at the OP's question, he is asking if anyone has had any experience with the listed kits. Much easier question to answer without bias. ;)

Yes.

Holy cow! $3100 to go from 3" to 4.5"? You go with coilovers?

I'm going to venture a guess here, and say that was his total overall cost, to upgrade everything, meaning bigger tires, which means a gearing change, SYE, and so on. Gears/axles are expensive, big tires are expensive, long arm kits are expensive...there's way more to all this than just adding 1.5" of lift to it and calling it good. If you're going up in height, then you're needing bigger tires, needing bigger tires means taller gears, better axle shafts, you get the idea...so when you start to think about it, really his cost wasn't all that bad...

Hack the fenders up and stay low👍😁

Yes, correct gears, Detroit Lockers, axles, sye, custom driveshaft, shocks, steering, HD Adj. U/LCA's list goes on and on, tried to do it right. I planned on all this lasting till I go with the long arm kit then a lot of this will be changed.


By all means cut the fenders, I plan on staying at 4 1/2" on Long Arms. Even now with what I have if the fenders weren't cut the Jeep wouldn't flex well at all with the 33's and I had to bump stop with my set of 35's. This photo is on 33's with 4 1/2" lift, looks lower than that because of the 2x6"Rock Rails being black powder coat.
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Ah, ok....not all actual costs involved with the lift. Got it.

Misnomer. They are ALL costs associated with the lift. IF YOU WANT TO DO IT CORRECTLY!

But I get what you're saying.

Modding your rig comes at a cost. When you change one thing, it usually means you need to change at least 3 other things to compensate for the change you made, LOL...the goal is to keep your ride as close to stock performance as possible, while improving other aspects, gearing is the best example of this...when you start changing things, you gotta start changing others. This is why we see 20 posts a week on lift/driveline problems, and even more "what does it take to go from 2" to 6" of lift" questions...

The "Lift Kit" is the CHEAPEST part of doing the lift correctly, its all the extras that mount up in price and mine were relay higher than that.


There is a reason why you see so many HALF A$$ED lifts done on XJ's.


One you can buy one cheap for a 4wd and they work well off road.


Two they buy a cheap lift kit throw it on, no extra parts that's needs and call it good and wonder why it has problems.


Three they sell it to a kid just because it has a lift on it they buy it and think its a great deal because the PO told them it was....Oh yeah I forgot the stereo and speakers for an extra 1k on the price.


That's why I advise to buy a stock XJ when they buy one then they can build what their idea of a good XJ should be.

Yup, and I get what you're saying as well. Regardless of the amount of lift, I normally plan on upgrading the axles by regearing (ratio based on tire size) and installing lockers anyways so for me, the cost of the lift is just that. :thumbsup:

I did find this its on a 99 2 door with no motor or trans. 6-1/2" CLAYTON long arm lift,high steer axle brackets , 3/4 ton dodge truck full length axles. 4:10 gears with detriot locker in the rear.
Goal would be to swap parts from it to mine and sell the 2 door as a rolling shell.