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Old 05-19-2011, 10:43 AM
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im looking at the iron rock offroad setup, rough country, or the rustysoffroad long arm setup. these three mainly because im on a budget and cant afford to dish out 1000 for long arms. please give me some input on these kits.
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I just installed the RC kit. I have nothing but good things to say!

ride quality is 200% better than short arms
build quality is 1/4" plate and you get the tcase skid plate
durability will be tested as the time comes..

the only thing is the arms hang down a little low but I cant complain in the slightest bit!
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RUSTYS

isay rustys becuase one. the ease of the install, super beefy, huge flex joints that are service able and adjustable and they are waaaaaaaayyy stronger then the RC IRO has good stuff to but you pay out the butt for there stuff when u can get the same stuff elsewhere

OH and another huge thing is that rustys are comes with the high clearance lca which is a huge help on the trail


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ummm have you looked at RC lately?

they rusty's, IRO and RC use the same size 2.65" Johny joint (or flex joint)

RC is rebuildable and adjustable

RC has the high clearance arms

RC uses all 1/4 plate

RC has the Tcase skid plate and Rustys doesnt

the lower arms are 2" OD i believe and very thick.

and you get more for your money with RC over Rusty's....

Rustys is $790
RC is $650

plus you get better customer service with RC than rusty's. I have extensive dealings with both companies.








btw RC has a better mounting system than Rustys too...

Rusty


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Originally Posted by 96_xj


btw RC has a better mounting system than Rustys too...

Rusty


RC
go ahead and jump it once i promise you u will lose ur WHOLE drive train with that RC setup they dont hold the frame very well at all. rustys pretty much makes the LCA's and crossember and frame as one... not you RC and there flex joints go out constantly go look in the search and i promise u will find a million flex joint problems with RC

ALSO look at all the clearnce problems you will have in your own picture look how far the LCAs hang down brother.... rustys is streamline tucked up and wont get hung up on anything

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go ahead and jump it once i promise you u will lose ur WHOLE drive train with that RC setup they dont hold the frame very well at all. rustys pretty much makes the LCA's and crossember and frame as one... not you RC and there flex joints go out constantly go look in the search and i promise u will find a million flex joint problems with RC
Alright sounds like you need to do a little research.

let me clear this up for you a little


RC uses the 3 stock mounting locations for the cross member, then ties it all in with the side plates that are thru mounted and use the crush sleeves.

the difference between the RC and Rustys mounting is that.

rusty's only uses 2 mounting locations for the cross member and then uses the side plates with crush sleeves...

and RC uses 3 mounting locations for the cross member then uses side plates with crush sleeves.... they are very similar set ups besides 1 bolt (which you are lacking) and location of the crush sleeves


RC also had joint issues with their first generation flex joints, this new set has fixed all of those issues are are completely rebuildable and have been fixed for a little while now. and if for some reason you have issues call them up as you have lifetime replacement.

Instead of jumping to conclusions and giving false information please do research.....

and as far as jumping it.... here is directly off their page



Originally Posted by lolz_jeep
ALSO look at all the clearnce problems you will have in your own picture look how far the LCAs hang down brother.... rustys is streamline tucked up and wont get hung up on anything
I am also at 7.25" of lift.... and btw the difference in clearance between the kits is 1/4" when laid side by side.....

again you need to do research.



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I vote IRO!
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BTW poll added with a vote for each of us...
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ok brother man YOU need to do some research because CRUSH SLEEVES are used in axles ALSO rustys DOES NOT you said "crush sleeves" they use the outer plates, yes, but then also they are supported from the OTHER SIDE OF THE FRAME RAIL with another bracket these brackets are also about 2 feet long giving AMAZING weight distribution along the frame rail doubling its strength and the frame rails strength acting as a frame stiffener......so anything else? on ur RC being strong then rustys?


and i beg to differ on the clearance im at 6.5" FRONT 7" REAR

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ok brother man YOU need to do some research because CRUSH SLEEVES are used in axles ALSO rustys DOES NOT you said "crush sleeves" they use the outer plates, yes, but then also they are supported from the OTHER SIDE OF THE FRAME RAIL with another bracket these brackets are also about 2 feet long giving AMAZING weight distribution along the frame rail doubling its strength and the frame rails strength acting as a frame stiffener......so anything else? on ur RC being strong then rustys?


Crush sleeves are exctly that... sleeves that are crushed. in this case between the unibody... and yes they are used when setting up a pinion bearing as well

Rustys using a backing plate where as RC does not. correct. but it is the same principle.

RC uses weight distribution on the bottom, Rustys uses it on the sides.

btw circled are crush sleeves just so you know

it is that big hole you had to drill in the unibody to stick the sleeve thru that you then stuck a bolt thru. Yeah that is a crush sleeve
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That IRO caster bracket always scared me until i saw closeups


Personally I think i've decided to go IRO when I do mine. I like the idea of the less binding you'll get with the castor bracket as opposed to dual radius arms like the Rusty's and RC kits.

More IRO kit pictures here: http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthrea...=985234&page=9

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I really like the IRO set up. seen a few up close. I have no negative comments on IRO
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tomato tomato i wouldn't call those crush sleeves because nothing on rustys gets "crushed"... but its whatever you get what you pay for
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also look into FrankZ's Long arms. he is a really great guy and local vendor. Plus he is still cheaper than Rusty's and it comes with a skid plate too! ....

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f10/longarmz-58438/

This is the kit that I build and sell for $750.


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Imo, the differences between the rc and Rustys kits are not enough to make one better than the other.

A word on the customer service though. I deal with Rustys on a weekly basis. And he's been nothing but easy to deal with.


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