After *****footing around for most of the video, he finally gave it some skinny pedal and went right up over it. If he would've done that from the beginning, that video could've been over in 15 seconds or less. So this rig is locked only in the front? If you fast forward to the end, it looks like a good video of why locking the front first is most beneficial.

 

No its locked front and back, the back it was pushed him up the front did nothing untill he had basically gotten up. The video doesnt do the climb justice, if your not in a good spot and give it enough gas to break traction itll slide you right inside the rock, if you go to my page you can see him and another xj 8.5",35's, 4.88, spartan in the rear, first attempts, if the guy in the silver xj didnt have sliders his whole drivers side would of gotten pretty f'd up. Most that try this are in purpose built buggies

 

^this. 4 and a half minutes of my life I'll never get back. Maybe it's just me, but a better line from the beginning and spotters who know what the **** they're doing would've made this go much faster.

 

Im telling you, this is the best line. you can go any more towards the passenger and going more towards the driver will put you into a rock. If you watch the other you can see a silver xj sliding into the rock, he wouldve had so much damage(Ive seen a couple toys and a ranger do it) but his slider stuck out just as much. And as far a spotters. The only one actually spotting is a guy with 25+ years of expeirence, on like his 10th xj, others are just yelling out stuff like, dragging diff, or tires coming off the ground. Id like to see any of you guys attempt this in 15 secs and not get any body damage. I doubt you guys would even make it if you drug the side across the rock in the only other line. This is his dd and he was not going to lay it down again.

And the purpose of putting up the whole video was to show you why a rear locker is better in steep climbs, you were literally able to see under/though the lugs on his tires

 

Well, if I was the guy spotting, right off the bat I woulda told those other dudes to STFU and let me spot. Calling out stupid stuff like that while someone is spotting is confusing and could get someone hurt, even killed. My bad on picking the line, I am not there and can't see it for myself, only from the angle it was shot at.

 

Right, but the debate is whether having just a locker in the front or the rear alone is more ideal. The jeep in this vid is locked in both the front AND rear, so they are working together. This would totally make sense for the argument if it was just the rear locked in this Jeep and open in the front.

 

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What im saying is the rear locker did the majority of the work, while the front locker slipped and spun.

As far as calling out, one spotter can see everything. Were telling him stuff like dragging diffs, and tires coming up, to avoid the dangerous situations, id rather know when im about to roll to at least try to avoid it

 

nice work. you've shown that a locked/locked rig can make it over an obstacle

why does this prove that front lockers are useless? he clearly needed both

 

No you dont, the front did nothing until he had already peaked over the hill, at that point it wasnt even needed.

My point from the beginning was that for steep climbs fronts are useless. They don't have enough weight on the front axel to get any traction. The with guy just the rear locked didnt try this line. We should be going out soon again. Ill have him try it and another guy who is dual locked but selectable in the rear(turned off) try it. I can garuntee the guy with the rear will make it

Yes but we have no one that went with a front locker first, every one is either, open both, rear, locked, or dual locked

 

*hangs up hat, walks away

 

I dont know which hurts more. my face, or my palm

 

Again, having seen the video I would like to say.

 

haha! yes. This thread turned into one of those stupid online arguments.

 

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