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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 03:29 PM
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Yes but mounting an obstacle does not need lockers, open diff work fine to climb up something, but with open diffs once you loose momentum you loose grip. The rear keeps everything moving. I originally planned on going with one in the front, thinking exactly what you said, spoke to many people who went fronts first and even drove one, they all said they wish they wouldve done the rear first, now ive been in a budds rig with only a rear, and that thing goes up anything you point it at
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 03:50 PM
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I'll tell you right now that's wrong. when it comes to rocks you need a front locker more than you need a rear

are all your friends rigs tiny light weight cherokees too? when you lock a cherokee front diff it will pull you over way more things than a rear locker can push you over. period
as soon as you lift a front tire on an open diff on uphill rocks you're pretty much done

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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Atmos
I'll tell you right now that's wrong. when it comes to rocks you need a front locker more than you need a rear

are all your friends rigs tiny light weight cherokees too? when you lock a cherokee front diff it will pull you over way more things than a rear locker can push you over. period
as soon as you lift a front tire on an open diff on uphill rocks you're pretty much done
Yup all cherokees
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 04:01 PM
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so they were all rear locked? so you've never tested a front locked cherokee? because if and open front diff rig can make it over the obstacle, it's probably not all that difficult of an obstacle
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 04:05 PM
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Exactly what Atmos is saying. Locking the front helps pull you over rocks rather than pushing them with the rear. Once an front tire hits a rock and the rock is big and steep, that locker will help drive you up it. If the rear is only locked then you will just push your way around the rock or not even get up it at all. It's almost the same thing with driving in the snow. If you don't have 4wd or AWD, then your best bet will be FWD only for the sheer fact it is easier to pull something through slick surfaces then RWD and try to push you through said slick surfaces. Locking the front first makes more sense if you will be using the rig for rocks.
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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You think what you guys want from Experience im telling you youll get more use from the rear. Idealy you want both. But like I said from 20+ year jeep owners specifically xj, they all say the rear first
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 04:27 PM
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And from my experience I am telling you the front is the way to go. I have a couple buddies with cherokees and one is locked in the rear and one in the front and the one locked in the front does better in the rocks then the one with the rear locked. Same with my friends who drive built yotas and wranglers through Fordyce and the Rubicon. They will tell you the same thing. Front lockers are better in rocks the a rear locker.
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToxin505
You think what you guys want from Experience im telling you youll get more use from the rear. Idealy you want both. But like I said from 20+ year jeep owners specifically xj, they all say the rear first
I'd rather be speaking through my own experience than no experience at all. you've never witnessed a rear locked cherokee try an obstacle then watch a front lockeed cherokee walk the same obstacle with ease. I have

your buddies with 20 years experience aren't here to tell us. have them join up and we'll get some rig and trail specifics. a cherokee on 35's with a front locker will out-wheel multiple 1 ton rigs on 38's that are only rear locked. all day long. I've seen it

when you get to 40's, that's when the front locker doesnt matter quite as much. because 40's dont give a ****
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Atmos

I'd rather be speaking through my own experience than no experience at all. you've never witnessed a rear locked cherokee try an obstacle then watch a front lockeed cherokee walk the same obstacle with ease. I have

your buddies with 20 years experience aren't here to tell us. have them join up and we'll get some rig and trail specifics. a cherokee on 35's with a front locker will out-wheel multiple 1 ton rigs on 38's that are only rear locked. all day long. I've seen it

when you get to 40's, that's when the front locker doesnt matter quite as much. because 40's dont give a ****
Oh ive seen a cherokee with front locked and one with just the rear, sure the one with the rear has 35 and the one with front on 33s, the one with the 35s will go places that the one on 33s wont try, or make.
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Atmos
I'd rather be speaking through my own experience than no experience at all. you've never witnessed a rear locked cherokee try an obstacle then watch a front lockeed cherokee walk the same obstacle with ease. I have

your buddies with 20 years experience aren't here to tell us. have them join up and we'll get some rig and trail specifics. a cherokee on 35's with a front locker will out-wheel multiple 1 ton rigs on 38's that are only rear locked. all day long. I've seen it

when you get to 40's, that's when the front locker doesnt matter quite as much. because 40's dont give a ****

This. I walked obstacles all day in front of a rear locked LJ with my locked front XJ on bald 33's.
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToxin505
the one on 33s wont try.
key difference.

a lot of it is going to be on the driver. but give me another reason why a rear locker is better other than the fact that you think having weight on the rear allows it to push you over obstacles
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Atmos

key difference.

a lot of it is going to be on the driver. but give me another reason why a rear locker is better other than the fact that you think having weight on the rear allows it to push you over obstacles
Im saying when climbing a rock the weight is being transferred from the front axel to the rear, ive seen people with dual lockers climb hills while there rear is pushing them up, while there fronts are skipping around
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToxin505
Im saying when climbing a rock the weight is being transferred from the front axel to the rear, ive seen people with dual lockers climb hills while there rear is pushing them up, while there fronts are skipping around
we're not talking dual lockers -_-

why is ONLY a rear locker better than ONLY a front locker. it's not

sure the weight goes to the back but as soon as you lose traction to the front you're hosed
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToxin505
Why not lock it. And for rock crawling a rear locker is better because climb your weight is mostly on the back tires
the reason I said no lockers is because the guy is hunting and using that as a daily driver.

unless you are doing real trail work it would be a waste of money to install lockers just for hunting.
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Old Jan 10, 2014 | 05:23 PM
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Okay my buddy with just the rear, when climbing a rock his front hop and spin
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