Headlight wire question?
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Headlight wire question?
Sorry guys I know this has been killed a hundred times but here goes....
I want to upgrade my headlights but unclear on harness upgrade and which lights to buy. I want to go bright but don't have the budget for Truklites (LED) and don't really know if HID is for me???? How do I do it right the first time????
I want to upgrade my headlights but unclear on harness upgrade and which lights to buy. I want to go bright but don't have the budget for Truklites (LED) and don't really know if HID is for me???? How do I do it right the first time????
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If you're on a budget, HIDs are not for you. Not if you want to set them up properly, anyway.
I recommend H4s with 80/100w bulbs and a relay harness. To do the conversion, you need a pair of 200mm H4 housings(I used Hella with glass lenses), uprated bulbs(I run 80/100w H4s) and an upgraded wiring harness. Total cost ~$150.00
Light housings: http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_6011.htm These are a direct drop-in replacement for your stock sealed beam housings. No modification necessary, and they look just like the stock lights, so you won't have any nonsense putting the truck through safety inspection.
Bulbs: These you can get from any number of places. Stay away from "hyper white", "HID" and other cheap off-brand bulbs with blue-colored glass. Blue light actually reduces visibility in bad weather. Search for H4 80/100. I recommend Hella brand bulbs: http://www.rallylights.com/h-412-hel...ogen-bulb.html
Wiring harness: The site listed below(Daniel Stern) has the harness you need for $49(recommended). Or you can buy the ARB brand one from Quadratec for $110(no reason to pay this much). You can also search eBay for "H4 relay harness" and get one for about $30. If you want to save some money, you can build the upgrade harness yourself. Whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to higher power lighting without upgrading your wiring harness, too.
There is a really good writeup here on the harness, why it's necessary, and how to build one, with wiring diagrams: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ys/relays.html
Light output of relayed H4s on the left, compared to stock sealed beams on the right, and a beam pattern comparison:
I recommend H4s with 80/100w bulbs and a relay harness. To do the conversion, you need a pair of 200mm H4 housings(I used Hella with glass lenses), uprated bulbs(I run 80/100w H4s) and an upgraded wiring harness. Total cost ~$150.00
Light housings: http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_6011.htm These are a direct drop-in replacement for your stock sealed beam housings. No modification necessary, and they look just like the stock lights, so you won't have any nonsense putting the truck through safety inspection.
Bulbs: These you can get from any number of places. Stay away from "hyper white", "HID" and other cheap off-brand bulbs with blue-colored glass. Blue light actually reduces visibility in bad weather. Search for H4 80/100. I recommend Hella brand bulbs: http://www.rallylights.com/h-412-hel...ogen-bulb.html
Wiring harness: The site listed below(Daniel Stern) has the harness you need for $49(recommended). Or you can buy the ARB brand one from Quadratec for $110(no reason to pay this much). You can also search eBay for "H4 relay harness" and get one for about $30. If you want to save some money, you can build the upgrade harness yourself. Whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to higher power lighting without upgrading your wiring harness, too.
There is a really good writeup here on the harness, why it's necessary, and how to build one, with wiring diagrams: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ys/relays.html
Light output of relayed H4s on the left, compared to stock sealed beams on the right, and a beam pattern comparison:
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I recommend H4s with 80/100w bulbs and a relay harness. To do the conversion, you need a pair of 200mm H4 housings(I used Hella with glass lenses), uprated bulbs(I run 80/100w H4s) and an upgraded wiring harness. Total cost ~$150.00
Light housings: http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_6011.htm These are a direct drop-in replacement for your stock sealed beam housings. No modification necessary, and they look just like the stock lights, so you won't have any nonsense putting the truck through safety inspection.
Bulbs: These you can get from any number of places. Stay away from "hyper white", "HID" and other cheap off-brand bulbs with blue-colored glass. Blue light actually reduces visibility in bad weather. Search for H4 80/100. I recommend Hella brand bulbs: http://www.rallylights.com/h-412-hel...ogen-bulb.html
Wiring harness: The site listed below(Daniel Stern) has the harness you need for $49(recommended). Or you can buy the ARB brand one from Quadratec for $110(no reason to pay this much). You can also search eBay for "H4 relay harness" and get one for about $30. If you want to save some money, you can build the upgrade harness yourself. Whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to higher power lighting without upgrading your wiring harness, too.
Light housings: http://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_6011.htm These are a direct drop-in replacement for your stock sealed beam housings. No modification necessary, and they look just like the stock lights, so you won't have any nonsense putting the truck through safety inspection.
Bulbs: These you can get from any number of places. Stay away from "hyper white", "HID" and other cheap off-brand bulbs with blue-colored glass. Blue light actually reduces visibility in bad weather. Search for H4 80/100. I recommend Hella brand bulbs: http://www.rallylights.com/h-412-hel...ogen-bulb.html
Wiring harness: The site listed below(Daniel Stern) has the harness you need for $49(recommended). Or you can buy the ARB brand one from Quadratec for $110(no reason to pay this much). You can also search eBay for "H4 relay harness" and get one for about $30. If you want to save some money, you can build the upgrade harness yourself. Whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to higher power lighting without upgrading your wiring harness, too.
Amazon.com: Putco 230004HW Premium Automotive Lighting Wiring H4 100W Heavy Duty Harness and Relay: Automotive
If you want the least amount of hassle, you're best to start off with the Putco harness, which will take maybe an hour to install tops, if you want to route everything correctly. Then, you can get sealed beam headlights which together will give you a massive improvement over stock. I still have the original sealed beams, haven't gotten the Silverstars yet, but the difference was huge even with them.
I do plan on the H4 conversion at some point during my project, though.
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I have the Putco Harness, Autopal E Codes, and Piaa Xtreme White bulbs. They put out a good bit of light but nowhere near the amount of a retrofitted hid .
FST's prices are well let me say I'll buy from him so I dont have to do the labor myself ! Soon as I get $400 saved up I am buying 2 sets One for my XJ and another for my YJ
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I agree with all of this for the most part--except the harnesses you pointed to (eBay exception). The Putco harness is only $25 at Amazon.
Amazon.com: Putco 230004HW Premium Automotive Lighting Wiring H4 100W Heavy Duty Harness and Relay: Automotive
If you want the least amount of hassle, you're best to start off with the Putco harness, which will take maybe an hour to install tops, if you want to route everything correctly. Then, you can get Sylvania Silverstar sealed beam headlights which together will give you a massive improvement over stock. I still have the original sealed beams, haven't gotten the Silverstars yet, but the difference was huge even with them.
I do plan on the H4 conversion at some point during my project, though.
Amazon.com: Putco 230004HW Premium Automotive Lighting Wiring H4 100W Heavy Duty Harness and Relay: Automotive
If you want the least amount of hassle, you're best to start off with the Putco harness, which will take maybe an hour to install tops, if you want to route everything correctly. Then, you can get Sylvania Silverstar sealed beam headlights which together will give you a massive improvement over stock. I still have the original sealed beams, haven't gotten the Silverstars yet, but the difference was huge even with them.
I do plan on the H4 conversion at some point during my project, though.
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Yeah, that Putco harness looks good, too. I'm not sure that was available when I did my conversion(years ago). As with most modifications, many of the component choices are down to personal preference, and you may find better deals on some things by shopping around(the Putco harness, for example).
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I've used mine regularly since 8/12. After about 3 months I had one relay (hi beam one) that would stick open when you'd least expect it. Replaced it and have had no other problems since.
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i've DDed my xj with the putco harness since feb or march of this year with no problems. I bought the Sylvania xtra vision headlights. they are quite bright for sealed beams. for me at this point, I don't know that the money required to go led or hid would be worth it for the result. what I have now works surprisingly well.
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