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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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My state doesn't have any laws I know of and I see plenty of people doing it so I'm not worried. I like the idea of staying full width and having better stability.

Ok I need to make a chart or something to figure out all the options I need lol.

-I'd like the Bronco HP Front D44.
-I'm not sure what bolt pattern it is or if I can find a rear D44 that has the same pattern. I think that would be easier than replacing shafts and stuff for the 9" Right?
-How hard is it to change bolt patterns?
-What about having different width front and rear axles. Is it noticeable or a problem?
-I need to do research on widths of all the axles I might need and how wide the cherokee is. Unless anybody has a good chart on hand.

Thanks for the replies just trying to write all this out make it easier to get everything straight. I think thats all my questions for now but I'm sure I'll have more.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorillaxj
I did the D44's F+R out of a Waggy, already had a LP front and didn't want to mess with narrowing axles so I just did it... I tried to put lots of details in my build thread, almost any axle swap will take the same amount of work and $$ to swap. its the parts that go into the axle that make the overall difference in cost IMO. I haven't had any issues and Wouldn't do it any other way for what I want.

Another option though is Early Ford Bronco axles, HP D44 (said to be 59-60" wide) front and ford 9" rear (said to be 58" wide). both can be Stronger overall then the Waggy axles. The down side is the 9" is a 28 spline and the front has the D30 joints, but using front F150 shafts, and buy 31/33/35/40 spline shafts and lockers for the rear can fix that... All an easy fix when locking/building axles already.... but it is work.. and $$ lol

TNT makes a nice truss for the front that's weld on and then bolts in. but costs a lot of $$ IMO, I pieced the brackets together for less then half the price of the TNT truss. but convenience costs $$.

My pinion angle isn't bad at 6" of lift and I have 7* of caster. but I also pushed my front axle forward 3" which helped a little.

All in All, if your just planning 33's then keep the stock axles, Its not worth the effort, work, $$ , or time. The factory axles are great with alloys to 35" tires and locked....

just my $0.35 cents lol

Nice build definitely going to read through it.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jajao555
My state doesn't have any laws I know of and I see plenty of people doing it so I'm not worried. I like the idea of staying full width and having better stability.

Ok I need to make a chart or something to figure out all the options I need lol.

-I'd like the Bronco HP Front D44.
-I'm not sure what bolt pattern it is or if I can find a rear D44 that has the same pattern. I think that would be easier than replacing shafts and stuff for the 9" Right?
-How hard is it to change bolt patterns?
-What about having different width front and rear axles. Is it noticeable or a problem?
-I need to do research on widths of all the axles I might need and how wide the cherokee is. Unless anybody has a good chart on hand.

Thanks for the replies just trying to write all this out make it easier to get everything straight. I think thats all my questions for now but I'm sure I'll have more.
The early Broncos didn't come with full width axle, they are actually a bit narrower than stock. Just FYI stock front is 60.5" WMS to WMS. The 78-79 Bronco is full width but the axles have cast wedges and are only good if you plan on using the factory Ford radius arms. Most 78-79 F150s have the cast wedges as well. 76 is the first year for disc brakes but earlier versions can be converted if they are open knuckle. So 76-77 are your best years and matching 9" will have 31 spline shafts and good to about a 37" tire. These axles are around 67" WMS to WMS and 5x5.5" bolt pattern. Waggy axles are not full width and are 61" for the front. Rear is typically around an inch or so narrower. Here's a site for some good info on D44s. http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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Pretty good write up I just came across.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/b...a-44-a-747194/

Still don't know what I'll use yet though. Researching.
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