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Flat tire please help
Appologies if this is the wrong thread. In short I traveled up a canyon to wheel two trails 25 miles made my way down 28 ish miles and on the last leg while going 75mph friends from behind called saying my passenger front tire was very low. Ha i wasnt worried until i got out and saw the wheel was almost on the ground and ide spent almost 30 miles down a canyon without noticing any problem. Lucky lucky lucky something worse didnt happen.
I want help with the fact that i have to replace my flat 31" duratrac. I drove home on the stock p225 or 255 idk, but is it bad to have 3 half worn tires and replace a new 4th? also is it terrible to limp home with a smaller spare in 2 wd? |
Why did your tire go flat ?Unless you got a hole in the side wall they can patch it probably.If you have to replace it i would buy two tires and put the on one axle and keep your used tire as a spare.
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I believe that i hit a sharp rock from a rock slide. the puncture is like a peace symbol each side a 1/4 inch perhaps. I can see metal thread in the tire. Does that sound patchable?
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That thing is trash
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Best plan, buy two new tires, install on rear. Take the best of the used tires and keep for a fullsize spare. This will buy you some time to get two new fronts to match.
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man i would hate to spring on new tires. will there be any problem with one new tire?
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Originally Posted by 4x4jeepmanthing
(Post 3275945)
man i would hate to spring on new tires. will there be any problem with one new tire?
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That sounds like a plan. I need the proper spare anyway
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Luckily I had coverage on the flat tire and bought another new one. Any reason you suggest puttingthe new ones on the rear?
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Originally Posted by 4x4jeepmanthing
(Post 3276075)
Luckily I had coverage on the flat tire and bought another new one. Any reason you suggest puttingthe new ones on the rear?
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"That's a fraud! It's a blatant rip-off! Let's implement it at the garage immediately!" lol http://www.cartalk.com/content/why-s...-back-find-out |
Flat tire please help
Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
(Post 3276137)
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"That's a fraud! It's a blatant rip-off! Let's implement it at the garage immediately!" lol http://www.cartalk.com/content/why-s...-back-find-out |
Indeed I have learned something new and thank you both for the links.
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They are right and i won't even run two different brand tires on one axle because of the compounds are different which can cause them to wear different and handle different.
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Originally Posted by Outlaw Star
(Post 3276128)
It's your drive axle. Instead of typing a long reply, here's something for you to read. I think #2 will help you understand why. http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...nked-10031440/
It is your drive axle, but I was always taught (for 50+ yrs now) that the new tires should go on front for several reasons: 1) the front tires do all of your steering, so good tread makes sure you can actually steer without slipping and avoid accidents by steering around them 2) the front tires do 70% of your braking, so good tread means you won't lock up the fronts as soon and skid out of control 3) the front tires are more likely to wear faster due to turning, so it keeps good tread up there longer and as for watching #2 on the previously mentioned link....if the rear tire lift as they call it, you still have the front to steer with & brake with. If the fronts lift, you have nothing to steer with, and braking response will be delayed since the rear brakes only do ~30% of the braking AFTER the fronts have been pressurized. Again, this is what I was taught, and I know they have recently been putting out the stuff in the above link, and I think they are doing this because today's drivers are way way worse than they use to be (1/2 of them shouldn't even be driving)..................but you be the judge.....I'd rather spin out since you can control that easier than to slide uncontrollably into someone or something. . |
Originally Posted by TRCM
(Post 3277091)
It is your drive axle, but I was always taught (for 50+ yrs now) that the new tires should go on front for several reasons:
1) the front tires do all of your steering, so good tread makes sure you can actually steer without slipping and avoid accidents by steering around them 2) the front tires do 70% of your braking, so good tread means you won't lock up the fronts as soon and skid out of control 3) the front tires are more likely to wear faster due to turning, so it keeps good tread up there longer and as for watching #2 on the previously mentioned link....if the rear tire lift as they call it, you still have the front to steer with & brake with. If the fronts lift, you have nothing to steer with, and braking response will be delayed since the rear brakes only do ~30% of the braking AFTER the fronts have been pressurized. Again, this is what I was taught, and I know they have recently been putting out the stuff in the above link, and I think they are doing this because today's drivers are way way worse than they use to be (1/2 of them shouldn't even be driving)..................but you be the judge.....I'd rather spin out since you can control that easier than to slide uncontrollably into someone or something. . I do give you credit for posting up some very useful info that can be used for the GC owners as well. You can never have too much info. |
Originally Posted by Outlaw Star
(Post 3277148)
It does make sense, for a FWD vehicle. Also take note our XJ systems are actually closer to a 60/40 braking bias unlike newer systems which are more towards your 70% bias.
I do give you credit for posting up some very useful info that can be used for the GC owners as well. You can never have too much info. FWD or RWD or 4x4...doesn't matter......... 70/30 or 60/40....very little difference......front tires lose traction and you've lost most of your braking and all of your steering ability I know what I would do & what I recommend when asked.......but I also let them know not everyone agrees with me. Personally, I replace all 4 at the same time, but that's usually because they all need it. It's your vehicle & your life...you know what you can & can't control and how well you drive......that's why I said "YOU be the judge.....", I'm just pointing out things others leave out. |
Originally Posted by TRCM
(Post 3277091)
It is your drive axle, but I was always taught (for 50+ yrs now) that the new tires should go on front for several reasons:
1) the front tires do all of your steering, so good tread makes sure you can actually steer without slipping and avoid accidents by steering around them 2) the front tires do 70% of your braking, so good tread means you won't lock up the fronts as soon and skid out of control 3) the front tires are more likely to wear faster due to turning, so it keeps good tread up there longer and as for watching #2 on the previously mentioned link....if the rear tire lift as they call it, you still have the front to steer with & brake with. If the fronts lift, you have nothing to steer with, and braking response will be delayed since the rear brakes only do ~30% of the braking AFTER the fronts have been pressurized. Again, this is what I was taught, and I know they have recently been putting out the stuff in the above link, and I think they are doing this because today's drivers are way way worse than they use to be (1/2 of them shouldn't even be driving)..................but you be the judge.....I'd rather spin out since you can control that easier than to slide uncontrollably into someone or something. . When I started driving at age 14 in KS. in 1962 my father told me to always replace the rear tires because you can't steer them where you can the front. Over all those years I have experienced high speed blowouts on both front and rear in cars to trucks. All of them were a bit frightening as such as anyone knows who has had one, but I much prefer for a front to blow than a rear as it gives me more control. I'm an old man and when it comes to tires when one goes and its not close to being new I replace them all, and my tire shop buys the take-offs from me if they are 50% or so tread. |
Originally Posted by TRCM
(Post 3277395)
FWD or RWD or 4x4...doesn't matter.........
70/30 or 60/40....very little difference......front tires lose traction and you've lost most of your braking and all of your steering ability I know what I would do & what I recommend when asked.......but I also let them know not everyone agrees with me. Personally, I replace all 4 at the same time, but that's usually because they all need it. It's your vehicle & your life...you know what you can & can't control and how well you drive......that's why I said "YOU be the judge.....", I'm just pointing out things others leave out. |
Originally Posted by Outlaw Star
(Post 3277403)
Calm down and cool off there. Four tires are best, no doubt but dont go fly off the handle about other info posted.
Just putting the info out there so the person who needs tires can decide, instead of blindly doing what some shop tells them to do. It's all good.......................:cheers:
Originally Posted by Fred/N0AZZ
(Post 3277400)
When I started driving at age 14 in KS. in 1962 my father told me to always replace the rear tires because you can't steer them where you can the front. Over all those years I have experienced high speed blowouts on both front and rear in cars to trucks. All of them were a bit frightening as such as anyone knows who has had one, but I much prefer for a front to blow than a rear as it gives me more control.
I'm an old man and when it comes to tires when one goes and its not close to being new I replace them all, and my tire shop buys the take-offs from me if they are 50% or so tread. My experience & opinion has been just the opposite...I'd rather a rear blow than a front....at least then I can steer it off the road with 2 tires, not 1 & a rim. . |
If you have lockers they could be damaged from running a different sized tire, such as a stock spare with 33's FYI
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