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Old 01-12-2018, 11:00 PM   #31
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I think the collective conclusion is it's not worth it. Best of luck to you.
I agree.


"simply pull everything out, and put everything in"
If it was simple you would have done it yourself already.


80 hours IF you can find somebody who knows exactly what they are doing.
You will never see that money again.

DIY or nothing IMO.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:31 PM   #32
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1. if the wire harness was not done correctly, then thats on the install!


2. give maybe 3 to 5 hours extra for any unusual problems.

3. but apparently it's a big mystery with all sorts of unknowns,
1. In a previous post, 5-speed explains that the brand you got for a harness doesn't really meet expectations, so if that fails it may not be on the install.

2. Thats extremely generous. Just one problem could take 3 to 5 hours if not more.

3. Thats exactly right. A total custom job like this has no set limits. Not all custom jobs lime this are the exact same. Thats why it's custom haha.

And by the way, how come your buddy that is a pro with engines can't do this job for you? Would be cheaper, and you probably trust him, right?
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20 over pistons? who cut them? diamond? wiseco? what camshaft? cyl heads? 5 speed is correct on most everything. after personally doing 7? lsx swaps in various chassis and laying hands on several others...there are a lot of unknowns. for starters - ill never use another overpriced, under labeled painful harness again. you have a lot of homework to do on compliance regarding accessories, intake manifold, injector harness/plugs etc.

you can easily lsx swap an older gm chassis for not a lot of money. cross brand swaps are typically where the small issues pop up. like power steering and bcm issues to name a couple.

what’s your fuel system look like? what transmission?

in all honesty you should’ve done more research before buying parts or dropped off the jeep and let the shop doing the work handle it. an experienced hand will cost you more in labor and less in parts.

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Old 01-13-2018, 11:53 AM   #34
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:16 PM   #35
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every mechanic absolutely needs this sign in their shop.
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Funny......altho I did watch a mechanic try to remove the wheels from an old truck I had once...this truck was a 79 dodge ramcharger, but it had a d60 front axle and a d70 rear.

He tried 3 different impact wrenches to get the lug nuts off as I watched thru the shop door while I smoked a cigarette outside.

Originally, the door was up, but he seemed annoyed I was watching, so he put it down. It was see thru anyway, so didn't help much.

Anyway, after the 3rd impact wrench, I knocked on the door and motioned for him to come over, he did reluctantly, and I asked him if he read the note on service ticket, he said yes....I then asked him if he looked at the studs the lugnuts were on, he again said yes.......so I asked him, why are you still using the impact gun in the wrong direction ?? The drivers side on that axle has left hand threaded lug nuts on it, which is why the note was on the ticket, and why there is an "L" on the end of the stud.

He looked at me sheepishly, and said thanks, then was able to spin the lug nuts off easily.

He should have been clued in by the much larger than normal lugnuts, that they were open with stud protruding thru vice acorn or closed style, and by the big L on the end of the stud, especially when they didn't come off easily.


Not every mechanic knows what he is doing all the time.................(and yes, he was a certified mechanic, not just a tire & oil jockey).


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Yes that is the perfect sign!

I have done over a 100 LS swaps in the past 15 years. None of them go as planned and they always end up costing over double what the customer thought. I think I have only done 5 Jeeps before and they were all a pain. The older they are, the easier.
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Funny......altho I did watch a mechanic try to remove the wheels from an old truck I had once...this truck was a 79 dodge ramcharger, but it had a d60 front axle and a d70 rear.

He tried 3 different impact wrenches to get the lug nuts off as I watched thru the shop door while I smoked a cigarette outside.

Originally, the door was up, but he seemed annoyed I was watching, so he put it down. It was see thru anyway, so didn't help much.

Anyway, after the 3rd impact wrench, I knocked on the door and motioned for him to come over, he did reluctantly, and I asked him if he read the note on service ticket, he said yes....I then asked him if he looked at the studs the lugnuts were on, he again said yes.......so I asked him, why are you still using the impact gun in the wrong direction ?? The drivers side on that axle has left hand threaded lug nuts on it, which is why the note was on the ticket, and why there is an "L" on the end of the stud.

He looked at me sheepishly, and said thanks, then was able to spin the lug nuts off easily.

He should have been clued in by the much larger than normal lugnuts, that they were open with stud protruding thru vice acorn or closed style, and by the big L on the end of the stud, especially when they didn't come off easily.


Not every mechanic knows what he is doing all the time.................(and yes, he was a certified mechanic, not just a tire & oil jockey).


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of course not every mechanic is the best. Just like every other profession... the sign still applies though because it's funny as hell
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of course not every mechanic is the best. Just like every other profession... the sign still applies though because it's funny as hell
I agree.....just pointing out that not every mechanic commands those prices........

and I forgot to mention those D60 & D70 axles come off an old dually
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