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Easiest way to raise pinion of '99 XJ D30?

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Old 11-20-2012, 10:42 AM
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I have a Dana 30 high pinion, non disconnect XJ front axle. I. Need to raise the pinion angle by about 10° to get proper driveline angles. I want to maintain my proper caster angle.

My question is really about the amount of work and specialized tooling needed to accomplish this. Would it be easier to grind the welds on the pumpkin (I think there are just 4 rosette welds) and then rotate the tubes in the pumpkin, and then cut off the passenger side UCA bracket and reattach to match the drivers side bracket (which is cast on the pumpkin)? Or would it be easier to cut off the knuckles and spring/LCA brackets and reweld them at the correct angle?
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I have a Dana 30 high pinion, non disconnect XJ front axle. I. Need to raise the pinion angle by about 10° to get proper driveline angles. I want to maintain my proper caster angle.

My question is really about the amount of work and specialized tooling needed to accomplish this. Would it be easier to grind the welds on the pumpkin (I think there are just 4 rosette welds) and then rotate the tubes in the pumpkin, and then cut off the passenger side UCA bracket and reattach to match the drivers side bracket (which is cast on the pumpkin)? Or would it be easier to cut off the knuckles and spring/LCA brackets and reweld them at the correct angle?
Look into adjustable control arms
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Control arm adjustment would change the caster.

I'm wondering, why? Also if it's that heavily modified why keep the D30 and not swap in a D44 if you're going to do that much work.

I know nothing I said answered the question but it sounds like you already know way more than myself. My curiosity is just wondering what you're up to.
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Just how much lift do you have?

Grind out the welds for the inner C's, rotate as needed, reweld.
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Adjustable control arms are a given, since the UCA mounts must move with the pumpkin.


I have 3" of lift, a front drive shaft that is a couple inches shorter than most, and a front TC output that is higher than most. A crawl box would help resolve most of those problems.

I am trying to keep this cheap and easy, and fast would be nice too. It's fast looking as though I should just get a Dana 44 and do a complete build on it. But that would cost hundreds of dollars more, and take me weeks to complete.

How bad will the coil curve be with the buckets rotated forward by 10°?
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At 3" of lift you don't need to worry about the pinion angle.
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At 3" of lift you don't need to worry about the pinion angle.
Come on over and take a look and say that again. My pinion u-joint has 10° of bend, the TC end bends something lie 15°.
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post a pic.
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Darn frank beat me
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Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
post a pic.
I was hoping to avoid posting a pic because it really has nothing to do with my question. But I'll go out and snap a couple anyway.
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The geometry is pretty well known, If your numbers are different something is wrong.
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Originally Posted by CrazyMonkeyBen
I was hoping to avoid posting a pic because it really has nothing to do with my question. But I'll go out and snap a couple anyway.
Posting a pic will allow us see what you see.
It has everything to do with providing the right answer to your question.
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Originally Posted by No4x4Yet
The geometry is pretty well known, If your numbers are different something is wrong.
I have an NV4500 with Chevy input and Dodge output and a flipped Dana 300. How many of those have you worked on?
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That doesn't matter at this point.
We are trying to help you......
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Originally Posted by CrazyMonkeyBen
I have an NV4500 with Chevy input and Dodge output and a flipped Dana 300. How many of those have you worked on?
Now that's something that might have been helpful in the 1st post to make us not think you're on crack.


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