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Old 01-11-2013, 03:05 PM
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I Recently replaced my stock rims on my xj with these i got off of CL.Name:  jeeptire_zpsc9c2e3fa.jpg
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Whenever I try to take the lug nuts off, it takes a 4 foot pipe with my tire iron to get them off, and smoke comes off after they "snap" and become loose. Does this happen to anyone else or just me?
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They shouldn't be that hard to get off. Sounds like you have the wrong lug nut/stud combo on there.
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Inexperienced tire installer air gun happy
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Inexperienced tire installer air gun happy
No, I tighten the **** ou of my tires like until the nuts stop spinning with an impact. And I never have trouble getting them off. Something isn't right with his setup.
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a dab of bearing grease helps
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I used to work in a tire shop and I saw the same thing all the time. Over tightened and some corrosion build up is causing the "smoke"
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Don't use a impact to tighten the nuts.They are only suppose to be torqued to 80ish ft lbs.

I have broken off 10 stubs with a 4 way lug wrench 'cause the stock studs are CHEAP metal.

Get chromoloy studs.
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I am pretty sure they are being over tightened. Is there any way to get them close to 80 ft lbs with out buying a torque wrench. Thanks
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Might to make sure it isn't a wrong lug nut for the rim problem.

I've been using the second position on my impact gun for yrs with no problems at all.

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Very handy pic, never knew that about the type of lug nut before. I DO know that required torque also varies based on rim material, eg aluminum is like 80 ft-lbs and steelies are 100ish. The PO on mine went crazymode with an air impact and getting one of the nuts off with my electric impact took several minutes, and yes there were clouds of rust dust. Since they've been abused anyway, when I do my wheels I apply anti-sieze and tighten them with the electric impact, about 3 clacks or so after they stop turning, which isn't that hard with this unit.
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Originally Posted by Big David
Don't use a impact to tighten the nuts.They are only suppose to be torqued to 80ish ft lbs.

I have broken off 10 stubs with a 4 way lug wrench 'cause the stock studs are CHEAP metal.

Get chromoloy studs.
Agreed that using an impact is a bad idea. Haynes manual says 75 ft lbs.
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I use a torque stick that sets it to 100ftlbs. i wouldnt feel safe with 75. Ive tightend over 5000 wheels and never had an issue. Sounds like someone used a tire iron and tightened it by hand until it didnt move. Straight impact gun with a socket would snap that stud unless the gun had a torque reducer.
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Pulled the wheel of today and the lugs are a match to the rim. I'm going to ask they guys at my local tire shop to see if they have any ideas.
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If its not overtightening its just rust dude. Set to proper torque with some anti-sieze
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Originally Posted by salad
If its not overtightening its just rust dude. Set to proper torque with some anti-sieze
Lug and studs dont agree with rust.


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