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mcnerd 04-16-2019 04:14 PM

death wobble and stock track bar question
 
I have been doing a ton of reading about death wobble.

1989 XJ w/ roughly 2" lift on the front. OME leafs in the rear.

Have death wobble at 55. New tires going on Friday and will have an alignment done. I do think its possible this will clean up my problem. Very old tires, as in early 2000's. Jeep sat on blocks for 10+ years.

I see a touch of movement in the driver side of the track bar. Not in the bolt but in the ball joint type end. Not huge. Zero movement on the lower passenger side. Going to be checking other things such as tie rod ends and ball joints tonight. Bushings on control arms look good.

So....

My track bar question is this. With that short of a lift typically an adjustable track bar is not necessary. I know an adjustable one would pull the axle back into better alignment. I know that a track bar with too much movement can be a major cause of death wobble. I have not found any references that the "stock" track bar on this short of lift causes death wobble. I can swap out an OEM Moog track bar for $40. An adjustable is 4 times that. I am not opposed to spending the money, but not interested in spending the money to move an axle a quarter of an inch if it has no noticeable impact on performance or solving the death wobble issue.

So just do an OEM swap track bar or worth adjustable in this scenario?

TIA

mcnerd 04-17-2019 03:29 PM

Also, I have verified that my ball joints have movement and my tie rod ends have no play. So....running out of culprits.

So my track bar question still stands if anyone has a thought?

Crossing my fingers that the alignment and balance this Saturday with new tires cures my DW.

TRCM 04-17-2019 04:03 PM

Ball joint movement is a big problem......

00t444e 04-17-2019 08:22 PM

I ran a stock track bar with a 3" lift and never had a problem.

mcnerd 04-17-2019 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by TRCM (Post 3551729)
Ball joint movement is a big problem......

I miss typed lol.

My ball joints have NO movement. :oops:

mcnerd 04-17-2019 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by 00t444e (Post 3551766)
I ran a stock track bar with a 3" lift and never had a problem.

Did you redrill to move lower end or just leave stock location?

00t444e 04-17-2019 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by mcnerd (Post 3551768)
Did you redrill to move lower end or just leave stock location?

I left it where it was.

BwanaBob 04-18-2019 05:12 PM

I have read a couple of times on forums that the Moog track bar is a tad
longer than stock. If that is true, then it would be an improvement for your 2" lift.

mcnerd 04-18-2019 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by BwanaBob (Post 3551889)
I have read a couple of times on forums that the Moog track bar is a tad
longer than stock. If that is true, then it would be an improvement for your 2" lift.

Interesting. Thanks!

TRCM 04-19-2019 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by mcnerd (Post 3551767)
I miss typed lol.

My ball joints have NO movement. :oops:


Was hoping that was what was meant......

:cheers:

4.3L XJ 04-19-2019 03:20 PM

If you have any movement in either end of your track bar, you can get death wobble. It needs to be tight on both ends

mcnerd 04-20-2019 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by 4.3L XJ (Post 3552014)
If you have any movement in either end of your track bar, you can get death wobble. It needs to be tight on both ends

Appreciate the feedback. Was not the question though. If you had any experience on the original question that would be great. TIA!

4.3L XJ 04-20-2019 09:42 AM

You can use the stocker and get proper alignment on a 2" lift by drilling another hole in the track bar mount if that is what you are asking, but that will not cure your death wobble


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