Modified XJ Cherokee Tech XJ (84-01)
All modified tech questions. If it modifies your XJ beyond stock parts ask it here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Which Dana 44 gear ratio?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-16-2011, 07:29 PM
  #16  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
BotakBeng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 1,894
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by 89eliminator
yup, any XJ 44 will work. you will need a new carrier, ring and pinion, and install kit for the 4.56s. as well as a professional who has done gear installs before as its not exactly easy to do.
Thx yo!
Can it be done with some/alot of reading?
I h8 profe$$ional .
Old 02-16-2011, 07:41 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
fallenknight308's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Dirty 530
Posts: 800
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 1 Post
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Renix I6
Default

Originally Posted by BotakBeng
Hi ya,
I'm planning on doing a 4.5-5.5" lift soon with 33"x12.5" tires and would like to swap my D35 to a D44 with 4.56 gear ratio.


This may sounds silly (since i'm gonna upgrade to a 4.56 ratio ) but while searching for Dana 44 on Car-part.com, i was given a few gear ratio option.

Pls comment on which Spicer 44 (i'm assuming they are Dana 44 ) should i be looking for.
1)Spicer 44 w/3.07 ratio
2)Spicer 44 w/3.54 ratio or
3)Spicer 44 w/3.55 ratio.


Appreciate if someone can help a newbie out.

Thx ya.
Those second two will do fine to hold you over on 33's ti'll you can re-build the carrier/ratio
Assuming your D30 (front) is 3.55: get the 44 in 3.55

Last edited by fallenknight308; 02-16-2011 at 07:46 PM.
Old 02-16-2011, 07:41 PM
  #18  
CF Veteran
 
Gorillaxj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 4,968
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

there are other options. the carrier brake is <3.73, and 3.92> so a regular 4.56 wont work. but you could get a thick gear, which allows you to use your carrier and spider gears. the difference in carrier is made up in the ring gear by making it thicker for a different offset.

info on a XJ D44- http://www.ringpinion.com/DiffDetail...=Diff&TypeID=3

Thick ring gear- http://www.ringpinion.com/ProductDet...px?ProdID=3311

I am not saying its better or cheaper depending on brand of gears you choose. but its an option.
Old 02-17-2011, 12:12 AM
  #19  
aka Wade-O
 
89eliminator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: IN
Posts: 3,703
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Year: 1989 Comanche
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by BotakBeng
Thx yo!
Can it be done with some/alot of reading?
I h8 profe$$ional .
with A LOT of reading/patience/mechanical ability/proper tooling it could be done i guess
Old 02-17-2011, 07:18 PM
  #20  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
BotakBeng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 1,894
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by fallenknight308
Those second two will do fine to hold you over on 33's ti'll you can re-build the carrier/ratio
Assuming your D30 (front) is 3.55: get the 44 in 3.55
Originally Posted by Gorillaxj
there are other options. the carrier brake is <3.73, and 3.92> so a regular 4.56 wont work. but you could get a thick gear, which allows you to use your carrier and spider gears. the difference in carrier is made up in the ring gear by making it thicker for a different offset.

info on a XJ D44- http://www.ringpinion.com/DiffDetail...=Diff&TypeID=3

Thick ring gear- http://www.ringpinion.com/ProductDet...px?ProdID=3311

I am not saying its better or cheaper depending on brand of gears you choose. but its an option.
Originally Posted by 89eliminator
with A LOT of reading/patience/mechanical ability/proper tooling it could be done i guess

Thx all for the comments.
Did some reading and it seem it takes more than a little reading to complete this job......therefore i'm gonna kiv this until i've done enough research.
Not to say that this goes wasted, as i did learnt from this thread that the front and rear HAVE to have the same gear ratio. .

Appreciate everyone for all the help.
Old 02-18-2011, 09:54 AM
  #21  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
BotakBeng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 1,894
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by fallenknight308
Those second two will do fine to hold you over on 33's ti'll you can re-build the carrier/ratio
Assuming your D30 (front) is 3.55: get the 44 in 3.55
Ok guys/gals, after some intense reading, this is what i came up with.....pls stop me if i'm heading the wrong direction .

Here is my current stock set up,
DJKS Dana 30/181MM Front Axle
DMDS 3.55 Rear Axle Ratio
DRMP Dana 35C/194MM Rear Axle

It didn't say anything about my gear ratio for my front Dana30, but i'm gonna assume is 3.55 since my rear axle ratio is 3.55, right?

If that being so, i should be looking for a Dana 44 with 3.55 gear ratio and i would work even without re-gearing both axle, right?

If I'm right so far, my plan would be to find a Dana 44 w/ 3.55 gear ratio, bolt it on and run 33x12.5" with 3.55 gear ratio until i figured out how to do the 4.56 gear upgrade.
Pls correct me if i'm wrong.

Finally, i found a Dana 44 with 3.55 gear ratio (claimed by seller) off an 89 XJ but i'm not sure how to confirm the gear ratio. Is there a way i can tell by looking at the axle?

One last question before i bored everyone,
Should i be particular with the axle spline count?

I would really appreciate all the help i can get.
Old 02-18-2011, 10:10 AM
  #22  
CF Veteran
 
rweaver138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Northeast CT
Posts: 1,640
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 99
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by BotakBeng
Here is my current stock set up,
DJKS Dana 30/181MM Front Axle
DMDS 3.55 Rear Axle Ratio
DRMP Dana 35C/194MM Rear Axle
all this non-sense isn't really necessary. you can just say you have a dana 30 front axle and a dana 35 c-clip rear axle

now we got that out of the way, onto your questions. your dana 30 is geared to 3.55 if it came like that from the factory, i doubt someone swapped another front end in w/ a different gear ratio. so, its safe to say you have dana 30/dana 35 w/ 3.55 gears.

and yes, if you find a dana 44 with 3.55 gears you can bolt it in, in place of your dana 35 with no issues. it will be just fine, AS LONG AS ITS THE SAME GEAR RATIO

and lastly, there are a few different ways to check gear ratio.
1. look for a tag on the diff cover that says the gear ratio
2. count the teeth on the ring gear (larger gear) then divide that number by how many teeth on the pinion (smaller gear)
3. turn the wheel and count how many times the driveshaft turns. driveshaft turns approx. 3 1/2 times - 3.55 gears

look here http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/fa...-ratio-615380/

oh, and the spline count on the dana 44 is 30
Old 02-18-2011, 11:11 AM
  #23  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
BotakBeng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 1,894
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by rweaver138
all this non-sense isn't really necessary. you can just say you have a dana 30 front axle and a dana 35 c-clip rear axle

now we got that out of the way, onto your questions. your dana 30 is geared to 3.55 if it came like that from the factory, i doubt someone swapped another front end in w/ a different gear ratio. so, its safe to say you have dana 30/dana 35 w/ 3.55 gears.

and yes, if you find a dana 44 with 3.55 gears you can bolt it in, in place of your dana 35 with no issues. it will be just fine, AS LONG AS ITS THE SAME GEAR RATIO

and lastly, there are a few different ways to check gear ratio.
1. look for a tag on the diff cover that says the gear ratio
2. count the teeth on the ring gear (larger gear) then divide that number by how many teeth on the pinion (smaller gear)
3. turn the wheel and count how many times the driveshaft turns. driveshaft turns approx. 3 1/2 times - 3.55 gears

look here http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/fa...-ratio-615380/

oh, and the spline count on the dana 44 is 30
Hey rweaver,
Thx for the link!
Apprecaite your help and comments (@naxja as well)

Flamed w/good advice =
Thx man!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dcollins3208
Axles/Tires/Wheels
12
12-11-2015 11:49 AM
RWKHausSupply
Vendor Showcase
1
10-22-2015 01:11 PM
aa7kn
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
8
09-23-2015 09:08 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Which Dana 44 gear ratio?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:09 AM.