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Rikrdolevy 03-26-2019 09:36 PM

Crossover Steering issues
 
So I have finally installed my cavfab crossover steering and now when Im running at some speed and bump into a pothole I get death wobble. I never had any issues with the stock steering setup and now im getting this issue. Can anyone advise from pictures attached if therr is something wrong with my steering setup.
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4.3L XJ 03-26-2019 10:43 PM

I haven't had experience specifically with CavFab, but if the drag link bend will allow it swap the drag link with the tie rod. The drag link needs to be parallel to the track bar, that is the ends need to be at the same relative height as with the OEM set up

unidentifiedbomb 03-27-2019 08:04 AM

I would mount the drag link on top of the drag link and see if that improves the ride. I have it setup like that and it rides very good

Tsaani97xj 03-27-2019 04:36 PM

I always thought crossover steering meant the drag link crossed over the tie rod. Try switching them and if no interference see how it drives.

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unidentifiedbomb 03-27-2019 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Tsaani97xj (Post 3548804)
I always thought crossover steering meant the drag link crossed over the tie rod. Try switching them and if no interference see how it drives.

I found $.02 today

That makes no sense, no. IRO is the only brand that designed a steering with the drag link crossover the tie rod. Tie rod always goes under the drag link in proper crossover steering.

4.3L XJ 03-27-2019 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by unidentifiedbomb (Post 3548831)
That makes no sense, no. IRO is the only brand that designed a steering with the drag link crossover the tie rod. Tie rod always goes under the drag link in proper crossover steering.

In a sense, you are right. But it is important for the drag link and track bar to be the same length and parallel. There are many on this forum and others who have done what you have done and gotten death wobble and don't know why. But when they put the drag link under the steering arm, it cured it. But if you move the axle end of the drag link up or the frame end down by about three inches it will also cure your death wobble. The way you have it, if you do a little geometry, as the passenger side of the axle moves up, the wheels will steer right a little. As they come down, they go back to where they were. The speed of this is what causes a resonance to build up and it then perpetuates itself and you have classic death wobble

Domaas 03-29-2019 12:53 AM

Hard to tell by the pictures, but it would really help if you had a straight on front shot that showed both ends of both rods in one picture (picture should show at least both front tires on the inside edge).

With that said, from what I can tell by the pictures your angles are off. Try flipping the drag link to the top of the pitman arm if it fits and drive it, if you problem is reduced or goes away, as I suspect it will, order a non dropped pitman arm or smaller drop as required and reinstall the draglink to the bottom of the arm as shown in the pictures.
BTW, brave move on the giant spacers on the front axle......

WyoCherokee 04-17-2019 02:40 PM

Holy mother of Wheel spacers Batman! Try moving your Drag Link over the Pitman arm. make sure all the Jam nuts are tight on the Heim's. Are you positive that you drilled out your knuckles straight and didnt end up with an oblong hole? My MJ is sitting at 6" and i have to have it Over the pitman. My XJ is sitting at 4" and i have to have it under the Pitman. Same steering.

unidentifiedbomb 04-17-2019 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by WyoCherokee (Post 3551708)
Holy mother of Wheel spacers Batman! Try moving your Drag Link over the Pitman arm. make sure all the Jam nuts are tight on the Heim's. Are you positive that you drilled out your knuckles straight and didnt end up with an oblong hole? My MJ is sitting at 6" and i have to have it Over the pitman. My XJ is sitting at 4" and i have to have it under the Pitman. Same steering.

Weird I'm at 4" and have it on top of my pitman arm. The non-high clearance drag link is too long to center the steering wheel at the shortest length.

Rikrdolevy 04-20-2019 01:00 PM

So I followed what most of you have said and moved the drag link over the pitman arm and that totally fixed my problem.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...05d78b62fc.jpg

unidentifiedbomb 04-20-2019 03:26 PM

NICE! Drive on


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