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Old 08-29-2012, 06:29 PM
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I have heard murmurings that "pucks" for your coils cause a poor ride. Can anyone with experience using them (I don't need more hearsay) tell me why and what "symptoms" they cause? I am not happy with my XJ's ride and want to know if I remove the pucks (and adjust the rear down appropriately) if I will notice anything? Thanks!
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I have never heard such a thing. The spring rate does not change you keep the rubber spring isolator there with the puck. It'll ride rough with shocks that are cheap or too short
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What are the details of your suspension set up?
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I do have the stock rubber isolator Tom95YJ

I started with a Zone 3.5" AAL kit, came with Zone white shocks.

For the front, I added the 1" spacer puck, which really is more like 1.5"

For the rear, I have a original main leaf and bushings, AAL, and a few S10 Blazer junkyard leafs in the rear. I can see the leafs in back don't look like they would lend to a nice street ride. I will replace them soon.

I am at around 5.5" of lift with all this. Not really by choice. I swapped out the bastard pack/AAL hybrid four times until I couldn't go any lower w/o being fearful of it being too soft in the back. I just gave up at the 5.5" height, plus, it looked good there height wise. I added the front puck to even out the lift.

My shocks came with the 3.5" lift kit, and when I called Zone, they said they "should" be good for 4.5" lift, on the street only. I know I am 1" HIGHER than that, but on the street (for now), is it REALLY my main contributor to a terrible ride?

I also have RC X-flex upper and lower control arms, with drop brackets, RC adjustable track bar with drop bracket, Zone steering stab., new drag link, 1" drop pitman arms, new TRE's and 3 out of 4 ball joints (the 4th seems fine).

I literally curse this thing as I drive it. Oh, and I've had several alignments, a different shops. I do have used Goodyear tire with 60% tread.

Maybe the tires are bad, but that it the last thing I want to replace trouble shooting this. I will do it, but only after everything else is checked/replaced first
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I bet your shocks are too short
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^^ said
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That and they're the cheap ones. And you used a bastard pack for the rear. All reasons your ride quality sucks.
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A steep lower control arm angle will cause a rougher ride. Every time you hit a bump the force is transmitted right into the chassis if the control arm is steep.
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A steep lower control arm angle will cause a rougher ride. Every time you hit a bump the force is transmitted right into the chassis if the control arm is steep.
The op has control arm drop brackets, so his control arm angle are fine, i would say its the combination of the shocks, the springs in the rear, and maybe he should get rid of the stock shackles
....oh and one more thing, its a lifted jeep, no matter what its gonna ride like one, not a cadillac
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Good point's gentlemen. Without breaking the bank, what brand shock ride well? I will buy those in two weeks when I get paid. Then, onto replacing the AAL/Bastard pack.

Question. Hard hard should to have to jump up-and-down on rear bumper to be able to tell if you rear springs are too soft or stiff!

Thank you for the sugesstions! I feel I am going to get somewhere on this thing!
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All white body shocks are basically identical. Dont waste your money on something you "Hope" will ride good. If you want something that will give you a good ride then go with bilsteins, or OME shocks. Your talking about 350-400 for a set though.
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Can I buy these shocks then? I know they say for Wrangler and I would have to get the stud converter thing for the top front shocks.

http://www.topguncustomz.com/p-1290-4-bilstein-5100-series-shocks-07-09-jeep-jk-wrangler-w-4-lift.aspx

I will take out my front pucks, for the front should be at 4" (it's a 3." kit but is about 1" higher in real life)

I will buy 3.5" rear leaf packs, assuming they will be about 1" taller than indicated too.


I would install both at the same time.
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Um...id find out what extended/collapsed length they are..just cause they fit a JK with a 4" doesnt mean they will fit an xj with a 4"
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Quote: ....oh and one more thing, its a lifted jeep, no matter what its gonna ride like one, not a cadillac -Understood, but should a lifted Jeep be bouncing all over the road on 31's driving on the street?

If the kidney busting and hydralic lowrider type ride is normal, please stop me now before I a different set of shocks on her.
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No, not even close to what you're describing. It shouldn't even be that bad offroad.


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