travis123321

well, i started my bastard pack.. i got it all prepped (wire wheeled all the old dirt and rust off, and painted it) tack welded the spring clamps (making srue the spring didnt get too hot) and im soon ready to install them.. is thier anything that i should need? shims? what about t-case drop (or HnT) i need some opinions on that..? im gonna use new ubolts and get anew center pin. what else do i need? i know ill have to drill out the cherokee main leaf a little.. ive searched but ive only really seen instructions on what leafs to use. mine are from an s10 prolly a 90's


2000 sport
auto
rear axle 8.25
t-case np242

Michael952

travis123321

ive watched this like 5 times haha. he does really good tutorials and how to's.

xj_maniac_newb

What size lift are you looking to get? And make sure to get a masonry bit to drill out the stock xj leafs. It'll make it soooooo much easier. I got a cheap bit from the local hardware store and it went through all 5 leafs I had left (after trying a normal bit for about 30 minutes and getting through 3), and the masonry bit cut the other 5 in about 2-3 minutes.

Also make sure you have a good functioning large C-clamp, so get a new one or lube up the one you have.

Cutting the eyes off the leafs is fun, make sure you've got a few cut off wheels and that you grind the edge that touches the leafs as round as you can get it.

Just the main leaf from an s10 pack gave me 1.5" of lift, and gave a very nice ride.

travis123321

im looking for 3-3.5 because im nervous about a hack n tap.. extra 100 bucks haha. and i just bought 10 4.5 cut off wheels. i bought some cheap bits, but now that you say that, ill save them for something else and get a few masonary bits. i planned on using the XJ main-s10 main-s10 2nd-s10 3rd...
i have a few good C-clamps so ill be good thier, what size masonary bit should i get? i tack welded the spring clamps to the bottom of the s10 3rd so they dont slide down, im not to worried about ruining the spring because i kept the spring wet everywhere besides the weld.the spring clamps it came with were wierd and wouldnt have worked. and i read the spring clamps slide down so i figured a few tacks would work

xj_maniac_newb

You should only need one masonry bit. The one i used is still in perfect shape after doing all of them. You'll need a 3/8 bit, along with a 3/8 centering pin to put the leafs back together.

The spring clamps may or may not work for your application.. I didnt use the stock s10 spring clamps because mine did not come with them, but i did use one of the stock xj spring clamps on the back side of each leaf pack. Seems to be working fine for me.

If you want to get pretty close to 3" The s10 main leaf and a 1.5-2" lift shackle will put you right there at it.

travis123321

ok, ill see what i can do to get the 3 inches. but where can i buy the center pin? the autozone near me doesnt have em.. and what about ubolts?

xj_maniac_newb

I would recommend getting ubolts from any reputable company. As long as they're not from auto zone they'll be fine, the quality of the auto zone ubolts is terrible. As far as the center pin, i'd look at the same place you get the ubolts. I just happened to have a brand new set of 3/8 center pins when i did mine, so i didnt have to buy any.

travis123321

ok, ill prolly get them from somebody on here. hopefully ill be lifted in a few weeks

jmu427

If you can't source actual centering pins, I bought some allen head screws from Lowes and ground the head down for clearance.

Big David

Will this work if your spring pack is shot?

Seems like it would if you used your XJ main leaf & all S-10 leaves.I want around 3.5 to 4 in. of lift.

Great video BTW.

travis123321

ill prolly just buy the center pins, i need to buy the ubolts anyway. and yea, the bastard pack works with worn out springs as long as thier not bent back far. he says it in the vid

xj_maniac_newb

my leafs were inverted and it still worked on mine.

travis123321

yea, i would think it would just give u a little less lift, if its not high enough add another leaf haha, thats whats nice about bastard packs

xj_maniac_newb

It works surprisingly well. Lol. If your leafs are inverted just make sure to use the main leaf and cut each end to end as close to directly under your xj main leaf eyes as you can. Mine has a nice healthy arch to it now.