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Performance plus 04-03-2019 09:02 PM

Better throttle response
 
Can someone tell me what size throttle body i should use..i want to install some 12 hole injectors and i am going with a 62mm throttle body...but my buddies said i can go larger..how large can i go with my tb...and does anyone have a part number for a correct set of 12 hole injectors..there for a 97 xj with a 4.0L eng..

Cummins93 04-03-2019 09:18 PM

A 62mm is fine. 12 holes are not going to add any power that wasnt already there with good working stock injectors. You could save your money on those 2 items and put it toward an ECU tune that will probably net you more gains.

00t444e 04-03-2019 09:31 PM

Many people have better throttle response after switching to 4 or 12 hole injectors. I have 12 hole injectors, APN header, 62 MM throttle body, and a 2.5" exhaust with no cat and my throttle is very sensitive.

Performance plus 04-03-2019 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by 00t444e (Post 3549902)
Many people have better throttle response after switching to 4 or 12 hole injectors. I have 12 hole injectors, APN header, 62 MM throttle body, and a 2.5" exhaust with no cat and my throttle is very sensitive.

that's the setup i want to run...what's the increase like..

97grand4.0 04-04-2019 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by Cummins93 (Post 3549900)
A 62mm is fine. 12 holes are not going to add any power that wasnt already there with good working stock injectors. You could save your money on those 2 items and put it toward an ECU tune that will probably net you more gains.

Disagree with the injectors, I added 4 holes and the response off the line was immediate and noticeable.

SatiricalHen 04-04-2019 10:05 AM

62mm is the biggest you can go without opening the opening in the intake itself.

Cummins93 04-04-2019 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by 97grand4.0 (Post 3549954)
Disagree with the injectors, I added 4 holes and the response off the line was immediate and noticeable.

Did you first install new single hole injectors to see what your off the line performance gains were? Im not saying it's not possible but there is a good deal of subjective data that's thrown around. I have singles, 4 and 12s installed on 3 different Jeeps but I dont have any objective way of measuring the benefit of having them over one another.

The price I got from the mods above comes out to $600-700. I would bet that more power and responsiveness can be had with a 89 octane tune for less money. Those gains would be backed with objective data from the tuner.

00t444e 04-04-2019 11:16 AM

Who makes tunes for our computers, and can they tune it so it will make more power but still run regular 87? There is no way I am paying for premium fuel.

Cummins93 04-04-2019 12:18 PM

JTECs can be reprogrammed. Syked ecu, Flyin Ryan and maybe Chris tuned if he is still at it. 89 is mid grade but allows more advanced timing. I run premium 93 on my set up and for what I get out of it it's worth it to me.

SatiricalHen 04-04-2019 12:22 PM

Everything I had seen pretty much said that 4.0s are tapped out from the factory and a tune doesn't really change much on them. I've never very seriously looked into a tune though.

Cummins93 04-04-2019 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by SatiricalHen (Post 3549978)
Everything I had seen pretty much said that 4.0s are tapped out from the factory and a tune doesn't really change much on them. I've never very seriously looked into a tune though.

Contact one of them and see what they can do for you. Personally I would go to Ryan first because he works directly on the JTEC ECU and has a very good reputation.

00t444e 04-04-2019 03:55 PM

I tried contacting Flyin Ryan a few months ago about tuning my Dakota but never got a response.

Cummins93 04-04-2019 04:33 PM

Try him again. He got right back to me not long ago or contact syked ecu.

XJwonders 04-05-2019 07:52 PM

If u need a throttle body. I'm your man

SatiricalHen 04-05-2019 09:10 PM

What he said^


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