Bedliner on floor?
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Bedliner on floor?
My carpet is always getting wet so I was thinking about pulling all of the carpet out and bed lining the whole floor. Who has done this and does the bed liner do a good job of insulating and keeping it quiet?
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Fix the leaks man haha. Mine leaked when I first got it. I had the interior out for a week throwing water on it to see where water came in. Plugged them all. I then just used some spray on bedliner just in case to prevent rust. Threw the carpet back on as well. Without the carpet it will be loud inside the can and the trans tunnel gets super hot.
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I totally agree with Martlor13:
I recommend fixing the leaks if there are any. If you are getting water ingress that could cause some electrical gremlins behind dash, in the roof, on the floor. Although I'd always recommend fixing things properly, I'd recommend doing a cheap repair with RTV before I'd recommend just ignoring it and bedlining the floor. You're also not guaranteed that the bedliner will totally prevent rust so you're just postponing the inevitable there.
Once you confirm there are no leaks, THEN bedline it. Even if you are sure the carpet is just getting wet from you tracking water inside, I suggest confirming it it water tight while you have the carpet out and you can trace the leaks easily. Might as well fix them now.
I used the spray on bedliner, but I put down Noico sound deadening mat on top so I didn't need anything too durable. I hear a lot about Monstaliner being good for this but I can't speak from experience. Key will be to prep. Use solvent to clean the floor. Remove any rust you can see. I used a wire wheel to kill any rust and scuff the paint quickly then wiped down with a solvent to clean it before a light primer and spray on bedliner.
And yes, from experience no carpet = too loud. You are going to regret not having something down to block the sound. Bedliner doesn't do anything noticeable for sound. You need something high mass, or something with a low stiffness. You really want the carpet or if the carpet is in rough shape, sound deadening matting like FATMAT or the Noico stuff. In a pinch I used fatigue matting from the hardware store and that did a lot for the price but nowhere as good as the carpet. I eventually replaced that mat with Noico sound deadening stuff and it was night vs day. I still have a layer of the fatigue matting in the cargo area to help cut the sound and it helps a bit.
The trans tunnel (and CAT on passenger side) have softened/ melted my sneakers before on the highway while I was sitting in the passenger seat. With carpet or with the Noico matting the temperature is more manageable. Without it it's uncomfortable, if not a little painful. Especially so for a passenger in the passenger seat.
I recommend fixing the leaks if there are any. If you are getting water ingress that could cause some electrical gremlins behind dash, in the roof, on the floor. Although I'd always recommend fixing things properly, I'd recommend doing a cheap repair with RTV before I'd recommend just ignoring it and bedlining the floor. You're also not guaranteed that the bedliner will totally prevent rust so you're just postponing the inevitable there.
Once you confirm there are no leaks, THEN bedline it. Even if you are sure the carpet is just getting wet from you tracking water inside, I suggest confirming it it water tight while you have the carpet out and you can trace the leaks easily. Might as well fix them now.
I used the spray on bedliner, but I put down Noico sound deadening mat on top so I didn't need anything too durable. I hear a lot about Monstaliner being good for this but I can't speak from experience. Key will be to prep. Use solvent to clean the floor. Remove any rust you can see. I used a wire wheel to kill any rust and scuff the paint quickly then wiped down with a solvent to clean it before a light primer and spray on bedliner.
And yes, from experience no carpet = too loud. You are going to regret not having something down to block the sound. Bedliner doesn't do anything noticeable for sound. You need something high mass, or something with a low stiffness. You really want the carpet or if the carpet is in rough shape, sound deadening matting like FATMAT or the Noico stuff. In a pinch I used fatigue matting from the hardware store and that did a lot for the price but nowhere as good as the carpet. I eventually replaced that mat with Noico sound deadening stuff and it was night vs day. I still have a layer of the fatigue matting in the cargo area to help cut the sound and it helps a bit.
The trans tunnel (and CAT on passenger side) have softened/ melted my sneakers before on the highway while I was sitting in the passenger seat. With carpet or with the Noico matting the temperature is more manageable. Without it it's uncomfortable, if not a little painful. Especially so for a passenger in the passenger seat.
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I did the whole back area of mine with the rubberized bed liner and I love it, but I can't speak for doing the whole interior.. Took the carpet out to lay on while working underneath the cherokee. The only thing is that it collects dust like mad.
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Did mine in a rubberized bed liner kit years ago that I won while at a ColoradoFest with NAXJA.
I would never, ever, ever...EVER...do that again.
It was "nice" initially, but being realistic...you still can't just "wash" your rig out.
The stuff when heated, still always had a smell to it I'll never forget.
It attracted dust and dirt like it was it's job.
I tend to go above and beyond on prep, as I did when I did it. That being said, it will still like to rub through and chip in areas over time. This will in turn cause bubbling, and possible rust issues.
I would sooner run a rubber matting (much like seen in trucks) that can be removed and easily sprayed down. This would allow for easy cleaning and draining, as opposed to being stuck with bedliner.
Never...ever...again.
I would never, ever, ever...EVER...do that again.
It was "nice" initially, but being realistic...you still can't just "wash" your rig out.
The stuff when heated, still always had a smell to it I'll never forget.
It attracted dust and dirt like it was it's job.
I tend to go above and beyond on prep, as I did when I did it. That being said, it will still like to rub through and chip in areas over time. This will in turn cause bubbling, and possible rust issues.
I would sooner run a rubber matting (much like seen in trucks) that can be removed and easily sprayed down. This would allow for easy cleaning and draining, as opposed to being stuck with bedliner.
Never...ever...again.
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I ran mine bedlined for 2 years. Hated it. mostly because of the heat. 105 degrees in the cab is something I can live without. The transmission tunnel gets hot enough to make my right leg uncomfortable. I bought a carpet kit and got heat barrier and put it on the firewall and trans tunnel. Waaaaay better.,
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I used Rustoleum roll on bedliner about 1.5 years ago now. I love it, no carpet to worry about when working around the floor. I don't DD it but honestly even when I do I don't mind it. I have no drain plugs in the 75% of the floor I replaced and drilled my own holes. Now any leaks I have drain out and have no issues. I put my own stronger hangers on my exhaust and was about to drill and bolt new mounts through the floor no worries. I can see maybe it not being great if you daily it compared to no carpet but taking it out once or twice a week it's not a big deal to me.
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I am still on the fence about what to do with the floor, I really want to get rid of the old carpet and insulation, I don't want anything on the floor that holds moisture, but I still want something that will give me some insulation from the heat and some sound proofing.
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I just bed lined mine. It is not a d.d. I plan on using heat shileds for the exhaust and possibly a couple rubber floor mats to help .
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Did mine in a rubberized bed liner kit years ago that I won while at a ColoradoFest with NAXJA.
I would never, ever, ever...EVER...do that again.
It was "nice" initially, but being realistic...you still can't just "wash" your rig out.
The stuff when heated, still always had a smell to it I'll never forget.
It attracted dust and dirt like it was it's job.
I tend to go above and beyond on prep, as I did when I did it. That being said, it will still like to rub through and chip in areas over time. This will in turn cause bubbling, and possible rust issues.
I would sooner run a rubber matting (much like seen in trucks) that can be removed and easily sprayed down. This would allow for easy cleaning and draining, as opposed to being stuck with bedliner.
Never...ever...again.
I would never, ever, ever...EVER...do that again.
It was "nice" initially, but being realistic...you still can't just "wash" your rig out.
The stuff when heated, still always had a smell to it I'll never forget.
It attracted dust and dirt like it was it's job.
I tend to go above and beyond on prep, as I did when I did it. That being said, it will still like to rub through and chip in areas over time. This will in turn cause bubbling, and possible rust issues.
I would sooner run a rubber matting (much like seen in trucks) that can be removed and easily sprayed down. This would allow for easy cleaning and draining, as opposed to being stuck with bedliner.
Never...ever...again.
To do everything over again, about the 4th time now, I'd paint it with a super thick (multiple) coating of epoxy primer, seam seal, then top with a good single stage... Then order up a rubber floor and trim it to fit. You can get them on Rockauto, and I'm sure other places, no idea how good or bad they are but it has to be better than everything else I've done.
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The noise levels are annoying, but the heat from the trans tunnel is BRUTAL. The Golden Badger had a bedlinered floor when i got it. After two days i pulled the carpet out of my wrecked sport and threw that in. SO much better.
I get why you want to do it, but hang on to your carpet... You'll probably end up putting it back in.
My current XJ isnt a DD, it really only sees the street when its on its way to some trail. I still dont plan on removing the carpet. Im going to cut it into sections and trim it around the seat tracks to make it easy to remove when i need to clean it/dry it out.
I get why you want to do it, but hang on to your carpet... You'll probably end up putting it back in.
My current XJ isnt a DD, it really only sees the street when its on its way to some trail. I still dont plan on removing the carpet. Im going to cut it into sections and trim it around the seat tracks to make it easy to remove when i need to clean it/dry it out.
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My carpet is pretty much shot, I guess I could always try the bediner then put new carpet over it later if I don't like it.