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plowboy 99 08-30-2011 09:39 PM

Gettin my hands on several axles. Which would be the cheaper easier builds? A waggey 44 completely (stock) assembled and a tj 44 housing, or a 44 and 60 combo from a j10 truck. Nothing at all done to the j10's ( original shape). Im planning on running 37's as a dd but ww. Not much rock kraaling, just mud/ trails. Also both sets of axles are less than$ 150 a set

Gorillaxj 08-30-2011 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by plowboy 99 (Post 1173509)
Gettin my hands on several axles. Which would be the cheaper easier builds? A waggey 44 completely (stock) assembled and a tj 44 housing, or a 44 and 60 combo from a j10 truck. Nothing at all done to the j10's ( original shape). Im planning on running 37's as a dd but ww. Not much rock kraaling, just mud/ trails. Also both sets of axles are less than$ 150 a set

the 44-60 combo would probably be better to handle the 37's right of the bat. but more $$ to build. Also depending on narrowing the housing/custom shafts if needed or leaving full width (make sfor tire coverage issues if you laws don't allow it.

the 44's would probably be cheaper as the width is close enough. but the lug patterns are different so some "custom work" or adapters would be needed. Alloy shafts and they should hold up ok, but deffinatly pushing the limits.

gears/lockers/seals/bearings are all relativly comparable. other then narrowing the full widths its the same work to do it. I would spend the extra $$ and go 44/60 with 37's..... just my 2 cents.

plowboy 99 08-30-2011 10:37 PM

I am lookin into wheels now so I will make whatever patern necessary and they will be left full width as it should be only around 6" wider? Also im coil springing the rear so I understand that the perches need to go and buckets put accordingly. Thanks

xjmarc 08-31-2011 08:35 PM

Waggy and TJ 44 have different bolt patterns but would be easier since the J truck axles have a passenger side drop front axle.

4.3L XJ 08-31-2011 08:42 PM

One thing about D60s I have learned from experience, they can be a land anchor in the mud. That ring gear and pumpkin are big and will hang up in the ruts. You would be much better off looking at something like the D44 rear and front. They will easily handle 37s in mud. Unless you have a standard tranny and love to do 8k starts off the line.

plowboy 99 08-31-2011 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by xjmarc
Waggy and TJ 44 have different bolt patterns but would be easier since the J truck axles have a passenger side drop front axle.

Wrong! Im having to build the tj axle so I can make it what I want to match and the 82- 86 for sure has a driver drop as I am looking at it as we speak. I do know the 70s had pass. Drop And not sure when it changed but it did.

xjmarc 08-31-2011 09:31 PM

All 3 FSJs I've owned had a passenger side drop also a J10 didn't come with a 60 rear but a J20 did. I have yet to see any J truck with a driver drop axle but I researched it and in the 80s they used them. If it's a J10 the rear is most likely an AMC 20 not a 60 unless it's 8 lug and then it's either a J20 or been swapped.

plowboy 99 08-31-2011 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by xjmarc
All 3 FSJs I've owned had a passenger side drop also a J10 didn't come with a 60 rear but a J20 did. I have yet to see any J truck with a driver drop axle mostly because they are full width and jeep didn't make full widths in driver drop. Waggys came with them but not if they were the wide track versions.

Well om not saying your wrong cause I agreed until I goggled it. It shows that some odd things went on in the 80s. Such as a few with the 60 and drivers side drop. I checked it out pretty good and there in a j10 and are j10 widths with comparable bins on each reared. I still find it hard to believe.

xjmarc 09-01-2011 09:19 PM

The J10 and J20 were the same width and a direct swap. The 44 were exactly the same except the hubs, 6 lug vs 8 lug. Is yours 6 or 8 lug?

plowboy 99 09-02-2011 05:41 AM

8 lug


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