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Pete Olsen III Feb 4, 2017 09:37 AM

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sorry to drag this from the dead but I couldn't find any good answers online so I wanted to post my solution somewhere.

I used the 4.0 efi intake and created my own carb adapter from a piece of 1/2 aluminum.

Then used a hei distributor. It's a one wire affair.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...d05d2f6412.jpg

I hope this can help someone. I got no answers from any forums, only people replying with questions of "why go from efi to carb". Here is a real answer.

Fred/N0AZZ Feb 5, 2017 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Pete Olsen III (Post 3355531)
sorry to drag this from the dead but I couldn't find any good answers online so I wanted to post my solution somewhere.

I used the 4.0 efi intake and created my own carb adapter from a piece of 1/2 aluminum.

Then used a hei distributor. It's a one wire affair.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...d05d2f6412.jpg

I hope this can help someone. I got no answers from any forums, only people replying with questions of "why go from efi to carb". Here is a real answer.




You really answered your own question "why go from efi to carb". There are not any positive ones to be posted only negative's.


Sorry

Big David Feb 5, 2017 03:55 PM

Other than those obnoxious fumes, no reason.

Fred/N0AZZ Feb 6, 2017 09:50 AM

Well yes and the engine only lasting half or less as long as an EFI one would.

Vernons Dec 27, 2017 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Olsen III (Post 3355531)
sorry to drag this from the dead but I couldn't find any good answers online so I wanted to post my solution somewhere.

I used the 4.0 efi intake and created my own carb adapter from a piece of 1/2 aluminum.

Then used a hei distributor. It's a one wire affair.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...d05d2f6412.jpg

I hope this can help someone. I got no answers from any forums, only people replying with questions of "why go from efi to carb". Here is a real answer.

how did this swap go? did it work for you and what all parts did you use on this swap. like if i was to go and ask for a distributor what would i ask for? cause everyone knows that when you look at the guy at auto zone you will always get that blank start lol like when i told then i had a jeep with a 350

minegun2 Aug 23, 2018 07:24 PM

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seniorasi Oct 5, 2019 09:22 AM

My first question: How is the fuel delivered to the carb with this swap?

tech Oct 5, 2019 04:39 PM

Good luck off roading your XJ with a carb they do not like off roading , also your fuel mileage will go down , it's not going to start up cold morning very good it going to be cold blooded . you could have a sensor that is a little off causing problems , it's not out far enough to set a code . I would ceck all the grounds and power wires check all plug to make sure they are clean and tight .

seniorasi Oct 6, 2019 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by tech (Post 3576261)
Good luck off roading your XJ with a carb they do not like off roading , also your fuel mileage will go down , it's not going to start up cold morning very good it going to be cold blooded . you could have a sensor that is a little off causing problems , it's not out far enough to set a code . I would ceck all the grounds and power wires check all plug to make sure they are clean and tight .

Cool...I was just asking the original post how the fuel is delivered to the carb. Obviously the fuel pressure will be way too high for the needle valve and seat in the carb. My preference is for fi but I try not to pass up any opportunity to learn how someone else is handling an issue. My XJ will remain in my possession until they quit making gas or until I die, just sayin...

JohanCR Pura Vida Apr 28, 2020 07:53 AM

Probably I am one of the few ones that really agree with you about carbs and simplicity, actually I really like what you did. My question, how did it work compared with FI?? I am planning on doing the same to my RENIX XJ

Jorge Salazar Mata Jun 29, 2020 01:35 AM

[CITA = nrwphoto; 3138406] Tengo un XJ de 98 'que ha tenido gremlins eléctricos en el cableado interior durante años. También tengo una falta de potencia y mpg en comparación con cuando lo compré por primera vez. Lo he tenido en varios mecánicos acreditados e incluso tuve que renovar la computadora hace un par de meses sin suerte. Debido a que he invertido tanto en suspensión, dirección, ejes, llantas nuevas y piezas misceláneas nuevas cuando decidí mudarme de AZ a MT, cargué el Jeep en un remolque y lo drogué aquí. Cuando retrocedí del remolque pude oler un corto eléctrico caliente. Bueno, ahora agota la batería en horas y puede extraer todos los relés y fusibles de la caja de control del motor debajo del capó y varios puntos en el motor (módulo CC, bomba de combustible y un zumbido maravilloso desde el lado inferior de la caja de fusibles ) todavía tienen poder!: maldición::llorar::pared de ladrillo::ayuda:

Entonces, después de dejarlo reposar durante un par de meses, no quiero perder ninguna parte y realmente no quiero cambiar todo el arnés de cableado. Estoy empezando a preguntarme si puedo limpiar un montón de sensores y cables en el motor y convertirlo en una configuración de carbohidratos. No tengo que preocuparme por las emisiones / inspecciones aquí, así que no hay problema. He leído sobre el uso de una ingesta 4.2, carbohidratos Holley o Weber, regulador de presión de combustible (5psi?) Y distribuidor HEI. ¿Necesitaría algo más?

¿También funcionarían el AW4 y los medidores (velocidad, tacómetro, temperatura, presión de aceite) si saco el sistema FI? Obviamente, dejaría los sensores anteriores en el motor. [/ QUOTE]
  • hola,tengo el mismo problema con mi zj 95,estoy cansado de los problemas eléctricos pero sigo enamorado de mi Jeep,al igual que tú estoy pensando en instalar un carburador ya que en mi país costa rica es difícil conseguir pcm

Jorge Salazar Mata Jun 29, 2020 01:39 AM


Originally Posted by nrwphoto (Post 3138406)
I have a 98' XJ that has had electrical gremlins in the interior wiring for years. I also have a lack of power and mpg compared to when I first bought it. I have had it into several reputable mechanics and even had the computer reflashed a couple of months ago with no luck. Because I have so much invested in suspension, steering, axles, brand new tires and misc new parts when I decided to move from AZ to MT I loaded the Jeep on a trailer and drug it up here. When I backed it off the trailer I could smell a hot electrical short. Well now it kills the battery in hours and you can pull all the relays and fuses out of the engine control box under the hood and various spots on the motor (CC module, fuel pump and a wonderful buzzing from the bottom side of the fuse box) still have power! :cursing::cry::brickwall::help:

So after letting it sit for a couple of months not wanting to take a loss on all the parts and really not wanting to swap out the whole wiring harness. I am beginning to wonder if I can clear out a bunch of sensors and wires on the engine and convert it to a carb setup. I don't have to worry about emissions/inspections up here so that is no problem. I have read about using a 4.2 intake, Holley or Weber carb, fuel pressure regulator (5psi?) and HEI distributor. Would I need anything else?

Also would the AW4 and gauges (speed, tach, temp, oil pressure) still work if I pull the FI system? Obviously I would leave the above sensors on the motor.

Por favor cuando lo logres puedes explicar el procedimiento,yo tengo un distribuidor de un 4.2 de un Amc eagle,pienso que podría funcionar

Cruisingram Mar 15, 2021 06:23 PM

Arise from the dead oh dead horse beaten thread! LOL- well, here is an interesting take on this debate- I traded into a 1988 XJ "frankenjeep" with a carb. It actually runs pretty decent, gets pretty good mileage, with a real dead spot mid range. I am trying to identify the carb- and then see the mismatched carb to manifold issue I have.I got it, I fixed the poorly installed electric external fuel pump, the totally frozen electric drivers seat with a manual, and replaced the radiator- that was fun because the vehicle is an 88 and had a 94 radiator in it, didn't find that out until trying to fit a 88 radiator back in it. So if I can get a good carb on this with a good fit, I think this vehicle is pretty strong actually- it's a lifted 2 wheel drive 88 Wagoneer. Perfect jungle jeep for my boys here in Hawaii. The mileage is as good as my EFI jeeps FYI. Starts crappy though. Hold it to the floor, turn it oever forevah, and then it starts.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...0133d92b4a.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...36ae0b019.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...06dca666b.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...5e9b120a0.jpeg

Cruisingram Mar 15, 2021 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by tech (Post 3576261)
Good luck off roading your XJ with a carb they do not like off roading , also your fuel mileage will go down , it's not going to start up cold morning very good it going to be cold blooded . you could have a sensor that is a little off causing problems , it's not out far enough to set a code . I would ceck all the grounds and power wires check all plug to make sure they are clean and tight .

Observation from someone that has a carb conversion- 1) Mileage clearly did not go down. It is virtually the same on my other 4.0 XJ. 2) The mickey-rigged nature of this carb, it does start wierd. I think once I dial in the carb- that will end. 3) No more computer or sensors once the swap is done- it has the HEI ignition, and all sensors mean nothing now LOL. No codes possible.

ijeeep Mar 15, 2021 06:31 PM

Mash it to the floor and crank forever ?
Sounds like your automatic choke isn't working.

From cold it should be step on it once, to hit the acceleration pump and set the high idle cam, then turn the key.


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