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Old 03-19-2018, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Tbone289
The best option for hiding amber bulbs behind clear lenses is to use "chrome amber" bulbs, IMO.

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https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f59/wh...8/#post3433799
You were the one who clued me in on that. I could not remember who it was. Thing about chrome amber bulbs that I kept looking at are the less then happy reviews by people who have bought them. Which is why I never pulled the trigger on them. Just wish a brand name I recognized made them. Going to follow up on the LED's. I can get some Pilots and another type through the store. The Sylvania's I can buy at Advanced. Figure maybe just buy a pack of 3157's and see what they look like up front. If they do what I want them to do then maybe buy everything else to complete the job. Frankly I don't know what I am going to do if anything.

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Neither do chrome amber bulbs. See the picture at my link. Zero color. I don't know why it matters how far they stick out from the socket. No flasher change needed.
I can't understand why people are still using glass bulbs with filaments in the year 2018. Why do they even sell them?? LEDs are better in every way. Better light. Better color. Don't burn out. And they don't cost anymore than some exotic bulb. Flasher is not a big deal at all...and you can use a load resistor instead of a different flasher if you wish. There is no advantage to standard bulbs.

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You betcha but I did run me some electric in there. Now I kin run them faincy exotic bulbs while I drop a deuce.

It's always interesting when someone asks for advice then ****s on you when it's offered.

Suit yourself.

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Thing about chrome amber bulbs that I kept looking at are the less then happy reviews by people who have bought them.
I can understand your reservations about buying an "off" brand. I will say that I have 6 years and 90K miles on mine with no issues. Maybe I'm just lucky.

Looking back over the past 30 years of vehicle ownership, I can't recall a single time that I had to replace a turn indicator bulb due to failure, even on vehicles I've owned 20+ years. They just don't get much run time when they are separate bulbs (from brake lights) as they are on the XJ.

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I can understand your reservations about buying an "off" brand. I will say that I have 6 years and 90K miles on mine with no issues. Maybe I'm just lucky.

Looking back over the past 30 years of vehicle ownership, I can't recall a single time that I had to replace a turn indicator bulb due to failure, even on vehicles I've owned 20+ years. They just don't get much run time when they are separate bulbs (from brake lights) as they are on the XJ.
Couple of the 194's and just replaced a tail/brake light 3 days ago. That is about it for the '00 in the last 5 years. I don't know. The Pilots are getting so so reviews, same with the Sylvania's. Betting a fair amount is just user error. We shall see what I end up doing. LOL
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It's always interesting when someone asks for advice then ****s on you when it's offered.
I don't recall asking anybody about what bulbs to use. Actually I don't recall specifically asking YOU anything. Can you quote where I asked that? Maybe I forgot??

Actually, I've been giving YOU advice on what we use in the modern world. LEDs are better, period. There is no disadvantage. There is no advantage to bulbs. None what so ever. In fact I would wager a guess that the mirrored bulbs you are going on about are dimmer and probably not DOT legal.

In the specific issue that was brought up about color, which I never asked, the overwhelmingly good answer is to use LED replacements. There is no "bulb" that sticks into your housing, so of course, you will not see the color. Add to that, LEDs always look white until you turn them on. Even cooler are the switchback LEDs mentioned by someone else, which shine both white and amber depending on need.

There is a reason new cars don't come with glass filament bulbs anymore, and it's not because it's cheaper for the factory.
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Originally Posted by Tbone289
You betcha but I did run me some electric in there. Now I kin run them faincy exotic bulbs while I drop a deuce.

It's always interesting when someone asks for advice then ****s on you when it's offered.

Suit yourself.
I believe the term you are looking for is "askhole".

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I don't recall asking anybody about what bulbs to use. Actually I don't recall specifically asking YOU anything. Can you quote where I asked that? Maybe I forgot??

Actually, I've been giving YOU advice on what we use in the modern world. LEDs are better, period. There is no disadvantage. There is no advantage to bulbs. None what so ever. In fact I would wager a guess that the mirrored bulbs you are going on about are dimmer and probably not DOT legal.

In the specific issue that was brought up about color, which I never asked, the overwhelmingly good answer is to use LED replacements. There is no "bulb" that sticks into your housing, so of course, you will not see the color. Add to that, LEDs always look white until you turn them on. Even cooler are the switchback LEDs mentioned by someone else, which shine both white and amber depending on need.

There is a reason new cars don't come with glass filament bulbs anymore, and it's not because it's cheaper for the factory.
Both my new cars only have LEDs for DRLs. All the other bulbs are the old school glass style. Not sure where you are getting your info from but its wrong.
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Both my new cars only have LEDs for DRLs. All the other bulbs are the old school glass style. Not sure where you are getting your info from but its wrong.
Must be super base model cheapos. I should have specified "quality" cars. You might also notice that all emergency vehicles are fitted with LEDs, this is because they are easier to see and more reliable. I'm not sure how any of this is relevant to this thread and the question that I asked.

We might as well just close this thread, my question was answered with the first reply, everybody else is just thread crapping because they like arguing on the internet about irrelevant things.

My thanks to Dumajones for actually answering the question and remaining on topic.
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My thanks to Dumajones for actually answering the question and remaining on topic.



When searching for light covers.. I searched for Jeep Cherokee xj clear side markers and lenses..
https://www.google.com/search?q=Jeep...w=1451&bih=692

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Must be super base model cheapos. I should have specified "quality" cars. You might also notice that all emergency vehicles are fitted with LEDs, this is because they are easier to see and more reliable. I'm not sure how any of this is relevant to this thread and the question that I asked.

We might as well just close this thread, my question was answered with the first reply, everybody else is just thread crapping because they like arguing on the internet about irrelevant things.

My thanks to Dumajones for actually answering the question and remaining on topic.
Yep my Lexus was one of the cheap $45k base model F-sport. Maybe you need to spend over $50k to get LEDs everywhere?

And you are right, this thread has been over way before you starting bashing other people for wanting to use glass bulbs that have been used for many years and work fine. Also, I am glad Duma helped you out. Not sure you ever would have found the clear lenses without him.
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Originally Posted by Ralph77
They really don't do that good a job at hiding the amber bulbs. It is all in the angle that you look at them. Sometimes it looks OK. That part I did not realize till after. But still like the look. Especially on my black Jeep.
Not trying the hijack the thread but did you know where I can buy a set of tail light guards like yours? I haven't been able to find them anywhere
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Originally Posted by 5-Speed
Yep my Lexus was one of the cheap $45k base model F-sport. Maybe you need to spend over $50k to get LEDs everywhere?

And you are right, this thread has been over way before you starting bashing other people for wanting to use glass bulbs that have been used for many years and work fine. Also, I am glad Duma helped you out. Not sure you ever would have found the clear lenses without him.
So did you come here to offer ANY useful advice what so ever on the main topic or the secondary topic of LEDs? Or did you just come here to argue and thread crap? Is there any way you could possibly revise your posts to make them even less useful?
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Whoop,,whoop,, siren screams out..


Over the PA you hear,, "OK BOYS MOVE IT ALONG OR TAKE IT TO PM"..
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Originally Posted by sneeze357
So did you come here to offer ANY useful advice what so ever on the main topic or the secondary topic of LEDs? Or did you just come here to argue and thread crap? Is there any way you could possibly revise your posts to make them even less useful?
Advise on main topic? A simple Ebay search for "Jeep Cherokee clear" popped up plenty of choices. My advise on the 2nd topic, which was clearly stated (pun intended?), is that normal glass bulbs work just fine. Not everyone wants to use LEDs just cause it is the "new" thing and because they are better in every way. That is all. Hopefully that helps.

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Whoop,,whoop,, siren screams out..


Over the PA you hear,, "OK BOYS MOVE IT ALONG OR TAKE IT TO PM"..
10-4. Over and out.
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Originally Posted by 5-Speed
My advise on the 2nd topic, which was clearly stated (pun intended?), is that normal glass bulbs work just fine. Not everyone wants to use LEDs just cause it is the "new" thing and because they are better in every way. That is all. Hopefully that helps.
The only reason this was brought up is because somebody tried to claim that mirrored bulbs were the "best" way to prevent color from showing through clear lenses. This is simply not the case. LEDs do a much better job at hiding colors...and a better job at everything else, as a bonus. In fact the person who tried to make that claim has clearly never even tried using LED bulbs.

The truth remains that mirrored bulbs are dimmer, and likely illegal for street use. LEDs are not. I suspect it is against the rules here to talk about illegal modifications.

I would really love it if somebody could come up with one reasonable example of how an incandescent bulb is better in any way. I really am curious what advantage they could have.

And when you say "hope that helps", I really don't think you mean it.
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