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Old 06-08-2013, 07:16 PM
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Which is the better axle? Iv always heard the 8.25 is just as good as the D44 and the 8.8 is marginally stronger. Was planning on the 8.25 swap but got to thinking with 36x12.50 TSLs I may need something stronger. Im still trying to learn about axles and what not so bare with me. From what I have read the 8.25 is 29 spline and the other 2 axles are 30spline so doesnt that mean that any axle I choose is gonna be just as strong as the other?
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Originally Posted by Slim357
Which is the better axle? Iv always heard the 8.25 is just as good as the D44 and the 8.8 is marginally stronger. Was planning on the 8.25 swap but got to thinking with 36x12.50 TSLs I may need something stronger. Im still trying to learn about axles and what not so bare with me. From what I have read the 8.25 is 29 spline and the other 2 axles are 30spline so doesnt that mean that any axle I choose is gonna be just as strong as the other?
8.8 is 31 spline. and similar spline count does not mean one axle is as strong as the next. you're forgetting size of the ring gear, carrier, pinion, housing etc. 8.8 has the largest of each I think.

this topic has been covered many times. should've searched on this one. then if you had any specific questions you should've made a thread. which axle is better? too vague. are we talking fully built? super 8.8 all day long

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1073319
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/2...-8-8-a-278092/
http://www.cherokeetalk.com/forum/f8...rd-8-8-a-5627/
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/8-...na-44-a-74813/

but on 36's, the rear axle isn't going to be your problem. dana 30 definitely maxes out on 35's

keep googling
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Not worried about the front right now but I do know that there is some differences in the carriers. Just dont know what they are. I did research it some but found really vague answers. I plan on 4.88s and an Aussie locker. This will be my DD weekend warrior rig so not going all out. I will probably end up with 35s but the 36s where an amazing deal and dont think 1" will matter a whole lot for what I will be doing until I get another set of tires.
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you should definitely be worried about the front. theres a guy near me who has gone through three 4.88 ring and pinions. dana 30 is not cut out for 36's it's just not

I don't know what you're asking. give some more information. what do you plan on putting into the axles. full case locker? chromos? do you mind c-clips? what's the budget? can you weld? help us out here. no one can tell you flat out which axle is best for you
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^^^ agreed.

I'd run a 8.25, 29spline personally for this just for the simplicity. Shafts are easy to replace if things go south and with my wheeling style I'll probably never have issues. that being said, some people like the skinny pedal a bit too much and go a little crazy. When that happens things break.

So, what kind of driving style do you have aswell is another question we should ask.
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you should definitely be worried about the front. theres a guy near me who has gone through three 4.88 ring and pinions. dana 30 is not cut out for 36's it's just not

I don't know what you're asking. give some more information. what do you plan on putting into the axles. full case locker? chromos? do you mind c-clips? what's the budget? can you weld? help us out here. no one can tell you flat out which axle is best for you
Havent really planned a budget lol. Wanting an Aussie in the rear and have a Powertrax No Slip in the front. I know a guy that can weld I dont have much experience welding plus I only have a harbor freight 90amp mig. Chromos are def planned for the front. I do mostly thick swampy mud and steep hill climbs but plan on getting up to Uhwarrie for some rock crawling. Im pretty easy on the skinny pedal but Im not afraid to abuse it either and will abuse the mess out of it if need be. Im trying to figure out what the best route to take is for doing some hardcore really technical trails in the near future. As well as learn the difference in the axles besides tube size and gear size.
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sounds like you can rule out the 8.8 as an option. I'd only build it if you're ready to do a lot of cutting and some welding. and go with a full case locker since the stock carrier is a weak point

my 8.8 swap ran me about $800. and it already had gears and chromos in it
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sounds like you can rule out the 8.8 as an option. I'd only build it if you're ready to do a lot of cutting and some welding. and go with a full case locker since the stock carrier is a weak point

my 8.8 swap ran me about $800. and it already had gears and chromos in it
Lucky man I dont mind cutting but like I said I dont have much experience or the right welder to do it. So either my buddy would need to do it or Id have to take it to a shop to have it done.
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Keep in mind.
The 8.25 doesn't have a carrier break, the 44 has a carrier break of 373, unsure of the 8.8

The 8.25 and the 8.8 are also both c clip axles..the 44 is not.
While you can eliminate the c clips it is something to consider
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Originally Posted by Xj88
Keep in mind.
The 8.25 doesn't have a carrier break, the 44 has a carrier break of 373, unsure of the 8.8

The 8.25 and the 8.8 are also both c clip axles..the 44 is not.
While you can eliminate the c clips it is something to consider
I was about to bring up the carrier break as well. A disk brake conversion on the 8.25 or 35 will help keep the axle shaft in the housing a little bit more in the event it breaks.
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Originally Posted by Xj88
Keep in mind.
The 8.25 doesn't have a carrier break, the 44 has a carrier break of 373, unsure of the 8.8

The 8.25 and the 8.8 are also both c clip axles..the 44 is not.
While you can eliminate the c clips it is something to consider
What is a carrier break and whats the issues with the c clip set up?
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