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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by VTJeep
Maybe terminology issue?

In the front (coil) springs and shocks. In the rear (leaf) springs and shocks.

The shocks don't have bearing on lift height. Spring do. So what you are talking about doing will lift the vehicle ~3" taller than in sits now. I don't think you want to get into the mods involved with this. Unless you've got cash to burn, that is- bring it to a good shop and turn em loose on it. Full steering, suspension, break and engine work. Plus unibody reinforcements, bumpers, winches, lockers.. The list goes on, but you've spent like 5000-7500 by now... So idk...
I believe he is referring to the shocks as coil springs?
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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^agreed.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jeeper albert
i thought that was the job of the leafsprings.
i thought the coils are meant to soften the ride.
and i know it sound really elementary but if you read under my name, you'll see it says newbie.
and thats the reason i'm asking, i'm still just a newbie who needs to everything there is to learn to build my xj.
Coils springs can go in the front or the rear.
The taller the coil spring, the more spring rate it will have. This means that not only the coil may not just get taller but the coil will get thicker and have more coils with in the spring like a slinkie. Leaf springs wich normally go in the rear but in early model and heavy duty trucks they went in the front. But when you get bigger leafs the arch of the spring pack changes and so does the pack count. You cant put coils together but you can put leafs together (these are called bastard packs normally). any other questions just ask.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jeeper albert
i thought that was the job of the leafsprings.
i thought the coils are meant to soften the ride.
and i know it sound really elementary but if you read under my name, you'll see it says newbie.
and thats the reason i'm asking, i'm still just a newbie who needs to everything there is to learn to build my xj.
The second thing I bought after my XJ was this:

High-Performance Jeep Cherokee XJ Builder's Guide 1984-2001 (S-A Design): Eric Zappe: 9781932494143: Amazon.com: Books High-Performance Jeep Cherokee XJ Builder's Guide 1984-2001 (S-A Design): Eric Zappe: 9781932494143: Amazon.com: Books

I've learned a lot reading it (and reading again after read threads in the forums). It has some years but so do the XJ :-). Maybe there are new brands and lift kits but it's a solid point where to start from.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by switchskater90
The taller the coil spring, the more spring rate it will have.
this is not always true. and in the case of cherokee lift springs, usually opposite.
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 93XJLI

this is not always true. and in the case of cherokee lift springs, usually opposite.
I understand. I am a novice wheeler but that was what i was told at school and in the shop. But thanks man.
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by switchskater90

Coils springs can go in the front or the rear.
The taller the coil spring, the more spring rate it will have. This means that not only the coil may not just get taller but the coil will get thicker and have more coils with in the spring like a slinkie. Leaf springs wich normally go in the rear but in early model and heavy duty trucks they went in the front. But when you get bigger leafs the arch of the spring pack changes and so does the pack count. You cant put coils together but you can put leafs together (these are called bastard packs normally). any other questions just ask.
The only time you'll see coil springs in the rear of An XJ is when you're on pirate.. Haha.. Not too common of a mod..
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by VTJeep

The only time you'll see coil springs in the rear of An XJ is when you're on pirate.. Haha.. Not too common of a mod..
Pirate4x4? Ive seen it a couple of times, i just stated it so that he knew it "could" be done. Lol
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by VTJeep
The only time you'll see coil springs in the rear of An XJ is when you're on pirate.. Haha.. Not too common of a mod..
Or here, or Naxja or pretty much any other site.

It's not THAT uncommon. I have 90% of the stuff for the coil conversion at the house.

I can think of at least 3 CF members with rear coils.

Either way, this is just confusing folks.

He means shocks.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 07:30 AM
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Well.. Yeah.. Not THAT uncommon, but you know what I meant..
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by xjclassicxj
I believe he is referring to the shocks as coil springs?
your right.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by marcelo73
The second thing I bought after my XJ was this:

High-Performance Jeep Cherokee XJ Builder's Guide 1984-2001 (S-A Design): Eric Zappe: 9781932494143: Amazon.com: Books

I've learned a lot reading it (and reading again after read threads in the forums). It has some years but so do the XJ :-). Maybe there are new brands and lift kits but it's a solid point where to start from.

and this is what i'm gonna buy right now, thanks man.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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Maybe if he can post up a link to the 7.5" "coil springs" he is looking at?

OP. It might be best if you start by explaining what setup you already have and what you know about it. Then do your best to explain what you are trying to accomplish. Then maybe we can help properly. Sounds like you are eager to learn, so thats good.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Lead Foot
Maybe if he can post up a link to the 7.5" "coil springs" he is looking at?

OP. It might be best if you start by explaining what setup you already have and what you know about it. Then do your best to explain what you are trying to accomplish. Then maybe we can help properly. Sounds like you are eager to learn, so thats good.
it's a white 98 xj, already has a 2'' lift from 4wd.com with BFS tires 30 inches.
what i know is, it's a liftkit, it's from 4wd.com, it's 2'', the kit includes 2 Front Coil Springs, Pair rear add-a-leafs, 4 Hydraulic shocks with boots and 4 rear axle u-bolts, those tires are offroad tires, those tires are very well made (i know BF Goodrich is good quality).

my plan is to put a 4.5'' lift with 37's tires and swap the coil spring from the kit with a 7.5'' spring.
http://www.rubiconexpress.com/Lift-K...pn=R%2fERE1358

but i'm also thinking of using the old stock leaf springs with the add a leaf from the 2'' lift to make a bastard pack to fit those tires while still swapping the coil springs from the 4.5'' kit with those 7.5'' springs.

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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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4.5 inch kit wit 37's? Dude you need to read alot more before you go hacking up your jeep. I had to trimm ALOT on my last xj with 35's and 5 inches of lift. Why such a big tire? Your axles are going to fail if you actually wheel it. Your not going to put 20 inch rockstar rims on it are you?
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