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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 08:39 AM
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I'm new here and just purchased my first jeep. My first line of business was to get a new set of wheels/tires. I ordered some soft 8's in 15x7 5x4.5 lug pattern. When they arrived, I noticed they did not line up with the stock wheel hub, and would not fit.

Here are the specs of the wheel I ordered:

Brand:Cragar
Manufacturer's Part Number:3975712P
Part Type:Wheels
Product Line:Cragar Soft 8 Black Wheels
Summit Racing Part Number:CRR-3975712P

Wheel Diameter:15 in.
Wheel Width (in):7.000 in.
Wheel Material:Steel
Primary Wheel Color:Black
Wheel Finish:Gloss
Manufacturers Wheel Series:Cragar Soft 8 Series
Backspacing (in):4.250 in.
Offset:+6.00mm
Wheel Construction:2-piece
Beadlock Functional:No
Beadlock Included:No
Lug Nut Seat Style:Conical seat - 60 degree
Hub Centric:No
Center Cap Included:No
Valve Stems Included:No
Quantity:Sold individually.
Wheel Bolt Pattern:5 x 4 1/2 in.


Any idea why they aren't fitting? I though wheel bolt pattern was 5x 4.5 for XJ's.
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 09:19 AM
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They are, so I'm assuming you received the wrong wheel.
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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Either they sent you the wrong ones, or maybe PO put different lug pattern hubs on? I'm not even sure if that could happen but just a thought.
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 10:05 AM
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Thanks for the quick replies.

Sorry for the noob question, but would the rim offset have anything to do with it fitting?

Since they sent me 5 lug wheels that don't fit...I'm guessing they probably sent me 5x5 lug patterns instead of 5x4.5, right?
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 10:09 AM
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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First I would return them and buy the 15.8" all the 7" is a stock size rim and with 15x8"s you will have a better BS. I have that same wheel at least with the 8" wheels it gives you some options as soon as you upgrade tire size...and you will sooner than later lol.
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred/N0AZZ
First I would return them and buy the 15.8" all the 7" is a stock size rim and with 15x8"s you will have a better BS. I have that same wheel at least with the 8" wheels it gives you some options as soon as you upgrade tire size...and you will sooner than later lol.
Do you think 235/75/15 BFG AT tires would fit okay on 15x8's? I saw a couple of threads mentioning that it would cause premature wear to the inner part of the tire.

Ideally, I'd like to get the biggest tire on stock springs without having any rubbing issues.

I've attached a picture showing how I measured the lug pattern on the rims I received (using the instructions below):

2. Use the distance between the center of one bolt hole to the center of the bolt hole adjacent to it:
If the distance is:

2-5/8" - the bolt pattern is 5 on 4-1/2
2-3/4" - the bolt pattern is 5 on 4-3/4
3" - the bolt pattern is 5 on 5
3-1/4" - the bolt pattern is 5 on 5-1/2
Attached Thumbnails 15x7 Cragar Soft 8 not fitting on stock xj-cragar-rims-lug-pattern-difference.jpg  
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 12:21 PM
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measure the pr cherokee said to, and if you trim you can run 31s at stock height no problem, just get wheels with 3.75" BS
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by prcherokee
Thanks - I just measured using this method and get approx 5 inches...so it looks like they probably shipped me rims with a 5x5 lug pattern instead of 5x4.5.
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pphan3

Thanks - I just measured using this method and get approx 5 inches...so it looks like they probably shipped me rims with a 5x5 lug pattern instead of 5x4.5.
Email them, and try to either keep that set and get a replacement set in 5x4.5, or at the very least a 5th for a spare
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 01:41 PM
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You could run wheel adapters.

http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.co....5-To-5-On-5.5
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pphan3
Thanks - I just measured using this method and get approx 5 inches...so it looks like they probably shipped me rims with a 5x5 lug pattern instead of 5x4.5.
That sucks who did you order them from?
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by XJmike0122

That sucks who did you order them from?
Pretty sure summit, he gave a summit part number on the first post
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 06:13 AM
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Could have been wrong part in the box they just go by the markings on the box.
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 08:16 AM
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You ordered one thing they gave you another. Return them for the correct rims.

15"x7" with 4.25" backspacing is a good choice for 235/75R15s. You can fit larger tires on stock suspension if you want to trim some sheet metal. Friend of mine installed aftermarket fender flares (Bushwacker flat I think) an ran 31" tires without any lift. If you go that route 8" then an wide rim is better.
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