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Old 06-15-2017, 07:22 PM
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From what they said mud is a no go hahha....but I can't tell you about their wear over time...too new like you said. And oh yeah i would go for an all terrain over mud if most driving is highway.
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Tires are installed, feel really good. Very smooth, the old ones must have been out of balance.

Anyways - I am kind of worried about the rear sagging a ton when I hook up the trailer. A proper drop hitch and a properly loaded trailer should mitigate that, right? I am mostly worried about it sagging a LOT

Not many pics on the web, but see how this one is level

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You've tried it and it's sagging?

A drop hitch is used to level things but first load the trailer with most of the weight in front of it's axles if possible.
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No, I pick up the trailer on Wednesday and hopefully head out on Friday morning, so I won't really know until I pick it up.

Uhaul will do a free inspection before I roll out of town though but I want to make sure the trailer isn't whipping around
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And so it begins
Needed a 5.5" drop hitch btw. The guy that helped me hook it up says that it needs 3-400lbs of tongue weight in the rear, hoping it doesn't sag too much, a bit worried about that because I haven't yet cut my rear fenders. He also said not to load too much weight over the rear axle in XJ and to put the majority of it in the trailer.

If it rubs hard I am going to keep my angle grinder and extension cable by the trailer door so I can do a quick + dirty really ghetto cut & fold from a rest stop or something (stay tuned for pics, lol). Or maybe I end up needing to do it on Friday before I leave town, never had that much weight on the back before.

Had to push my departure back a day or so, loading it up on Friday morning now, and heading straight out of town basically. Going to do some test driving on the highway and really hoping I get it weighted properly the first time and don't have to do it on the road.




Mostly this is for anyone in a similar situation as me, still yet to find out if this is a horrible idea or not.



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I think you're going to be fine. I've admittedly done worse towing with my xj (too much tongue weight or too little) it's not the end of the world and it's definitely not going to kill you. Don't speed, and just drive reasonably. I've probably done at least 10,000 miles towing with my jeep. You have the right mind set and that's the biggest thing.
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Well, just got home! XJ towed the trailer without any major problems

Towing mpgs were about 11 on average, and I was able to cruise at 2800rpm which was around 70mph most of the time. Up the hills I would just draft behind the truckers but I was probably 7500lbs gross so definitely down on power, lol. The Grabber X3's are great, really comfy for a mud terrain. No discernable wear but I'll check the tread depth when I can.

Stopped at the Cozy Inn for burgers in Kansas, Hattie B's Hot chicken in Nashville, Sugar's Ribs Georgia, and begrudgingly ate at a Waffle House because I was too tired and needed to crash for the night, and it was the only thing open. The waffle was actually not that bad
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Got a bit sketchy going through Atlanta, mostly because the drivers really suck and like to ride right next to the trailer when there is no shoulder. Got a few thumbs ups from fellow Jeepers, saw some guy flat towing a Comanche with another Comanche, also saw a truck driver almost wreck at like 4 AM drifting off the road.

Other than that, went very smoothly! Didn't take many pics but I'll post up a few when I can.

Thanks for the advice CF. I think most of my worry was loading the trailer properly, I had probably 500lbs of tongue weight but it didn't rub unless I was accelerating in 1st gear up a hill (damnit Nashville). Probably 3/4 of an inch in the rear, I felt like I was driving a brodozer it was squatting so hard
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Congratulations on you and the jeep making it.

What is the road volume like on those grabbers? I'm looking at discoverer STT pro's, bfg km2's, and nitro trail grapplers at the moment. Tires are flippin expensive. Trying to find a 4th of July sale or something. Did you just order from Amazon or something?
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good job! glad all went well
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Originally Posted by CR-Snow
Congratulations on you and the jeep making it.

What is the road volume like on those grabbers? I'm looking at discoverer STT pro's, bfg km2's, and nitro trail grapplers at the moment. Tires are flippin expensive. Trying to find a 4th of July sale or something. Did you just order from Amazon or something?
You know, I will need to test them on the highway after I unhitch the trailer - I only had them on for like 40 miles before embarking on the trip so I can't really comment. I don't remember them being very loud, but with the trailer it was pretty loud overall. I got them from TireBuyer.com (they have a Denver warehouse that had them in stock). Same day delivery was free, I checked the recepit and they were $770 for just the tires + $64 tax = $840.17

General Tire had a $75 Visa Gift card offer at the time, so that brought it down to $765 total. I paid $75 for install, but sold my old tires for $200 so basically came out to $640 for new rubber which was cheap enough. And fresh rubber feels really damn smooth, had no vibrations on the ride over after I removed my front driveshaft, lol

They were comfy at 28 psi, and still very comfy with the front at 30 psi and rears at 32 psi for towing - very pleased with their on-road manners. My only concern is to check the tread depth, I feel like they wore down more than I would have liked on the trip, but obviously there is still plenty of tread left, I probably have 2200 miles on them right now. I am expecting to need to replace them at 30k ish miles which is pretty low, but they were close to $300 cheaper than the Cooper STT Pro's and KM2's (my first choice) it may not be the worst tradeoff. They were within my budget and with all my moving expenses, the $300 difference was hard to pass up.

I am not too sure if I would get them again, but I will definitely be getting another set of Grabber AT2's when I get back to Colorado. Great tire IMO, was exceedingly pleased with its performance and durability on snowy roads and rocky trails. Just as good if not better than the BFG AT's


I do feel like the tread is more optimized for rock crawling though, they would probably be great at that. Should be testing them in the mud/offroad at Croom or HardRock offroad park in the next few weeks

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